Sasquatch Chronicles Wes Germer on Coast to Coast AM
Wes Germer made an appearance on Coast to Coast AM to talk about various bigfoot topics, and his own encounter that turned him from a skeptic to a believer.
Coast To Coast AM - February 17, 2015 Bigfoot, UFOs & the Occult
In the first half of the show, Wes Germer shared the life-changing experience that he and his brother had when they were surrounded by a family of what they believe were Bigfoot/Sasquatch in November of 2012. The two were parked near a game trail late one night in Washington state when they heard eerie growling sounds and observed something moving toward the car. Then, they saw something moving in a tree, not unlike a monkey. Finally, they saw a huge creature step out into the road, about 60 ft. away. "It was the biggest thing I've ever seen-- it wasn't a man, it wasn't a bear"-- it stood about 10 ft. tall and must have weighed around 1,000 lbs., he marveled.
Germer surmised that it was some type of primate creature-- it walked with bent knees, had a head smaller in proportion to its body, and its arms hung down almost to its knees. It had a menacing quality, and was accompanied by a smaller, lighter-colored creature that jumped off a small ridge top. The riveting incident changed him from a total skeptic into a Bigfoot researcher and investigator. One of the cases he subsequently looked into involved a man named Bob Garrett who filmed a torn-up camp in Texas, where it appeared like bodies had been dragged off. Germer noted that there are regional differences in Sasquatch, with four different main types.
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ReplyDeleteSome of this about Bob Garrett was also discussed on Wes Germer's podcast Saquatch Chronicles in the "Down the Rabbit Hole" episodes 70-72.
DeleteOf interest in this interview is he says two bodies were found from the torn up camp, one decapitated and the other partially eaten up in a tree. He says Garrett called 911 after seeing what he thought looked like bodies had been drug out of the came and he saw blood.
It also mentions shell casings looked like someone was firing a gun in a 360 circle like they were attacked from all sides. It's wild stuff.
Wes is not what he say's! He has made up his story to make money because he and his brother think we will pay for anything bigfoot related! he is using people and his time is limited. the story will be coming out soon enough
DeleteCan't believe Dodsons claims without more proof but if his taste in quality toupees is any sign of his character well he's alright in my book
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ReplyDelete..just practicing...with this verify you are not a robot, firsting is at a whole new level..I think the Mayor could not adapt to these changing times...the old pervert...
DeleteHe cant move as quickly now that his buns have gotten stale and flat.
DeleteIt's true he isn't as fresh as he used to be and not to everyone's taste but dang nab it I miss that lecherous cheese-head flirting with any girl who made a post here. Maybe I'm just old-fashion and nostalgic.
DeleteHey - maybe Chick and Eva can lure him back!
..6:49.. Loser..haha...
Delete....lols..He was(is) a nutty guy and a top-shelf troll; if he mentioned bigfoot 3 times over hundreds of posts that would be a lot....
Deletehow do they know there are 4 types? really so little is known, 4 different types? no one that really, they can guess that maybe different types, they talk like they know it all, please you have a decent radio show and it goes to there head and suddenly they know it all, Will is the biggest know it all of the show, yes he has years of experience, but he can't prove 2,3,4 different types, lets get proof of one first...
ReplyDeleteHis info comes from Mr. Black via Will....listen to the shows it will explain it all.
DeleteYes, if you listen to the show he tries to explain the different types of bigfoot. If you only read the intro where it says there are four types then that's all you know. As far as 7:28 saying they want to be "know it alls," he makes a statement about how he was no expert before giving his opinion on these different types.
DeleteHe notes differences by region.
He mentioned dogman which he says is usually 500 miles east or west of the Mississippi River. He said the ones in the Pacific N. West tend to have more conical heads, while the east coast ones in particular, and also the south tend to have more rounded heads. He said the east coast ones are usually described with with very human looking faces but other parts not so much. He also talked about foot track differences.
So, he claimes there are regional differences.
Sorry, D Dover, but Will does come across as a "know it all"..... And, at times, seem to be a tad-bit jealous of Matt Moneymaker (bfro) but that's just my opinion! lol
DeleteWell, his name is Wes Germer, not Will. Are you sure you're familiar with him? He's articulate and shows a good grasp of the subject. I've never heard him say anything about the BFRO or Moneymaker, and I've listened to a lot of his episodes. So, I'm inclined to not put much credence in your comments.
Delete7:28... I believe they know this from a government insider who they refer to as "Mr. Black"... So this is nothing from their own observations.
DeleteI have a mind blowing big foot experience. Please call me. 469-464-7065. Thanks.
DeleteWes' story holds up under the "fear " test. Does the storyteller relate facts which are in line with a person under stress or fear. Secondly, Woody was there so it's a multiple person encounter with more credibility. Third they followed a protocol of notifying persons of authority, about their encounter, which is consistent with a real encounter. And I can tell you this, if you listen to enough of these stories you begin to question the sanity of the practice of pursuit of these Subjects at night Especially unarmed. You may have a problem with their refusal to relate 100% of the details but nothing, and I do mean nothing, indicates any subterfuge in either their account or Bob's for that matter, which comes replete with built in credibility of it's own, in the form of real life consequences. Kudos to Matt K for posting this and it's nice on a very rare occasion to discuss a real Sasquatch encounter on a Bigfoot Blog in the comments. Clive I'll put the dog out, you enjoy your evening.
ReplyDeleteMike, I agree about night time, they seem to be more emboldened after dark and much more dangerous at night and less likely to engage people during the day.
DeleteIn the Ape Canyon incident they either shot at or possible shot one in the back, but it wasn't until that night that the cabin was attacked. They decided to stay in the cabin instead of heading back because it was a long trek and they would likely get dark along the way. That mght have been a wise decision.
Go back to "Torn up Camp" by Bob Garrett and put your speakers on high and watch it all the way through. Listen to what Bob says when he keeps flashlighting the trees when he's concerned they are still near. He mentions a breath sound, a kind of raspy deep breath chuff call they make when they are being positively aggressive and considering perhaps the possibility of an attack. It's a very real sound and it gets picked up on the enhanced audio, and it's not altogether unlike the breath that Wes describes and if you ever hear this sound, well, clear out or click off safety. Your choice.
DeleteDover I've tried very hard to replicate this call. When all else fails, at the very worst it comes out as a long wheezy, raspy kind of buck snort. And it does get results if they are around.
DeleteI have a lot I can learn from you. I'm unfamiliar with knowing about an aggressive sound. Is it anything like the short burst a bear makes when it is taking an aggressive stance.
DeleteNo. It's like a raspy low frequency moan. It's not something you'd want to experience. There's a sequence in the Sierra Sounds where Biggie and Wahump (Ron's monickers not mine) are presumably fighting over food. In this short sequence one of them makes a long moan growl chuff to intimidate the other one. And that's as close a thing on tape besides the faint sound Bob reacts to that we have. Hell what do I know. I'm just a pimp chasing a blimp. Goodnight my brother. M
DeleteI actually link to Ron Morehead's vocals in the aggravated encounter I had, that you read, to explain the language I heard. But I was being cursed out in Squatchese.
DeleteI know exactly which sound you refer to on the Sierra Sounds recording. It kind of ended that argument they were having. It's all guttural sounds.
Now. That's exactly what I'm taking about. Now take that sound. Lower it and draw it out. A low raspy gutteral moan with many of the same elements you describe. It's almost like they are ratcheting themselves up for something bad. I heard it once by the water trough and it was just once too many times for me. But like any fool will do, I tried imitating it in the Ozarks at predation station, and they started chattering around us. And my partner Ricky from the Bootheel Boys gave up researching later that night. He kept saying "Mike I hear ducks but there ain't no water around here". And I just said "man those aren't ducks" and he turned white as a sheet. I ruined a few new researchers on that trip. ;)
DeleteWhat do you expect them to sound like with a mouthful of tangerines?
DeleteA simple "thanks Mike" would have been sufficient. ;)
DeleteNow I'm going to bed DSA. You all know very well that this type of talk makes me "escared". So here's to the wine, and here's to the glass, and here's to the grizzly, that bit Jim Bridger's ass.
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DeleteNight brother. I'll FM you some private audio from MO. I think I have some of it taped.
Delete...Appreciate you sharing that bit of cryptozoology, but the problem with having a rubric for grading anecdotes is that its known by the potential liar who will then make sure his story will pass....A less subtle problem is the height: Go stand under a basketball hoop and imagine something that tall and wide enough to account for half a ton! Hard to believe things that big wouldn't be found in a week if there are enough to support a breeding population.....
DeleteEven if they don't want to be found, often staying away from humans in wilderness areas, and can move on all fours if they need to -- greatly reducing their height? Humans are often noise, stay on trails, and they are intelligent and can avoid them.
DeleteNow, if you put them in the dumb animal category, of which many of those like cougars are not often seen, then you would have a better case. But they are more crafty than anything out there.
Where did your encounter take place 9:41 ?
Delete9:41... I have always thought the contrary actually. I think that something that tall with very adapted methods of blending in could quite easily lean against a tree in dense brush and not be noticed.
DeleteI would also like to read of you encounter.
DeleteI've read Indian legends of them mimicking trees. Sometimes they slowly rock out and back behind a tree, and Ive wondered if that might mimic a tree moving in the wind, I don't know.
DeleteThey will sometimes almost lay on the ground when creeping up to check out humans. They sometimes curl up and mimic tree stumps or large rocks.
..I didn't claim to have an encounter, Joe...I think 10:30 was being sarcastic..Thanks for the replies guys...
DeleteOne fault I might have is I'm apt to take risks.
ReplyDeleteNow, I've heard it growl, a very low steady tone, but I think you are referring to something different. The growl scared me. It's very intimidating, and that is what it was meant to do. A very clear communication.
So, you friend heard ducks. I guess that is somewhat of a guttural sound. Do you think they were talking back to you due to your vocals, or talking to each other?
I have no doubt what he heard was Samauri Chatter discussing just what exactly they just heard. I'm certain the general consensus was it was the worst attempt at an aggression call they'd ever experienced. But as Will Ferrell said, and Kanye and Jay-Z looped, "it gets the people goin...."
DeleteI can see them discussing, "Did you hear that idiot." "Strong human accent." But maybe there is a lesson here in trying to repeat some of their words might get them to start talking.
DeleteI know its time to hit the sack.
Quack Quack Quack, Shhhhhhhh,quiet!!! did ya hear that,it's a Squatch for sure............
ReplyDeleteRabbit season....Duck Season. That was pretty funny DSA 1. MKB 0
Delete^^^If we cannot and have not proven that they((Bigfoot) truly exist then why not throw in a few jokes along the way. Not sure how a rabbit would sound as I think a Sasquatch would have a whole lot of trouble mimicking one. Who is DSA,abbreviation for?...........
DeleteDid you now to, that Big foots can fly when they want to! That they talk any language they hear.
ReplyDeleteThat they know 99.9% of Bigfoot researchers, are complete idiots, and they never will be discovered, even when wearing a flour scent Jump suit
Wes was drunk again and got his facts all messed up, go to ep67 thru 71 when they talk about the torn up camp. he is adding BS to make it better and better each time he talks about it. this is what all these guys looking for money do, why was Will not on the show? he is the expert with 40 years of looking at this topic and he does not add the lies like Wes does. I just read else where that We's story/encounter had been proven a lie and he did this all for money.
ReplyDeleteI think a mirror would help discover the source of untruths. "Wes was drunk again." From your first sentence it was a made up rant.
DeleteYeah! they pulled the coast to coast show off of sasquatch chronicles yesterday because they did not want their fans hearing of the lies Wes told about the torn up camp.
ReplyDeleteI had just started listening to it when they pulled it. WOW they are going downhill after that! People are stopping their subscriptions now in the forum!
DeleteWho the heck would pay monies to join a Bigfoot site when one has all the information on the internet that one would want on the subject on Sasquatch. I think it's just as bad/waste of money buying these books written by people who, 1,never ever have seen a Sasquatch and 2, never even has even been out in the field to look and gather information on them of course if they are ever,ever,ever proven to exist. Geeeeeeeeez folk's I have my opinions on and about Sasquatch as well, would you like to buy them,half price today!!!.............
ReplyDeleteSasquatch Chronicles has burned several people who have asked not to have their name put out online or radio. Why do you think they don't have as many guests now? they are having problems with trust!
ReplyDeleteI have the distinction of being the first paying member to get the banhammer from Wes Germer on SC. Started laying out breadcrumbs to the brain-dead SC cult members over there about how Wes and Woody's little Yacolt Mt. adventure was a total fabrication. Wes bounced the server to disconnect me, then changed my password.
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ReplyDeleteIn doing to, he blew up email notifications that night. Lulz. So I'm still being billed for the rest of the year. Neat, huh? Anyway, these hicks made it up out of whole cloth. Too big to lay it all out in one email, so I'll butcher the story one piece at a time. If you are still on the SC site, look at the gravatar for member Patrick G. It has an email you can contact me at. There was no full moon the night of and going into the early morning of Nov. 17 2012 - 2 a.m. - 5 a.m. They state there was just this bigass bright full moon in every telling of the story. It was shining clear and bright for their little monsters to dance under. They state how they are more woodsy than Daniel Boone and Robin Hood combined...so they'd know this kinda thing, right? Nope. My 6 year old nephew wouldn't mistake as crescent moon for a full one. Derp. Waxing Crescent, 11% illumination....and the moon had already set before they even got out there. Darn. You all missed that, huh? I know. Everyone did. Well, not everyone. Epic 3rd grade science class FAIL! There will never be a full moon mid-month. That's why it's called a month. 30 day moon phase cycle and whatnot. Don't expect these to hick turds to look up details like that when making up a booger story. Don't expect your average brain-dead worshipful SC member to even notice that, either. They think any person that tells a story and cries, well, its gotta be for reelz, right? They swear the guys story is soooo real and consistent. Half of them don't even know how many times the story has been told to even know what changed and what was left out. First telling was on The Bigfoot Tonight Show, which is still on iTunes. "Episode Best of Worst of 2012" Listen as this douche Wes calls in and trips all over himself. He also thought Will J was going to be on that night, but Will had cancelled. Wes didn't know that, though. He totally drops Wills name at that end. He set out to bait Will in from the beginning, like the dick Wes is. Jevning never had a thing to do with any of this. Once he knew, he was powerless to take part in actively engaging in the investigation for legal reasons. He had to be protected. More can be said on the flipside I suppose, but know personally that he is a very knowledgeable, kind and sincere man. William Jevning is and always will be the very best we have left in the search for this creature. He is the last of a dying breed and I see no one to take his place in sight, which is sad. One man in a giant field of cranks and scammers like Germer. He deserves a break from the serious knowledge seekers out there. Remember...you were taken in too. It happens. He is human. We all are. It was never Will's case to investigate in the first place. All he did was interview them and was asked to join in. He wanted publicity, so what? Who can blame him? Wes just wanted to use him for cover and credibility. That...is vile. It worked, too, for a while anyway.
People assume too much. Got to run down the facts yourself. Shannon...well, she never within a mile of a clue. Shocker, I know. Little giggle box. Sorry girlfriend. Guess paranormal ain't your thing. Go back to personal training or whatever. You were in over your head in this, Bigfoot Babe.
Wes Germer is far worse than Rick Dyer. 100X worse. He and Woody should be the sole focus of all wrath to follow. Its theirs. They own it. Reap it, reap it hard.
For the record, I gravitate between skeptic and believer on this subject. Debunking isn't exactly what I set out to do here and I was just as into the show as anyone, but once you know the score, you have to tell. If you are serious about this subject, we have to sort these cons out. It's ugly...and it's going to hurt people and leave others disillusioned, but it has to be done, and learned from moving forward.
More later folks.
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