These Photographs of Yeti FootPrints Were Taken Back in February
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| Photo of an apparent 'yeti footprint' taken 4000 metres below Mardi Himal on Machapuchare last February. |
New research by Dr. Bryan Sykes at Oxford University claims that they have finally solved the mystery of the Yeti. Tests on hair samples were found to have a genetic match with an ancient polar bear. Sykes believes the Abominable Snowman is "part polar bear and still roams the Himalayas". That specimen dates back at least 40,000 years ago, and probably as far back as 120,000 years - a time when the polar bear and the closely related brown bear were separating as different species. Though Sykes claims the Yeti is probably an ancient bear roaming Nepal, a few people have recently came back with evidence of footprints that look nothing like a bear.
On Wednesday, BBC Radio 4 received some photographs of "yeti footprints" sent in by Rick Bevan and taken by Captain Guy Norton of the Royal Gurkha Rifles. The prints appear to have toes and human-like strides:
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ReplyDeleteJoe is smoked like a fillet of salmon drizzled with a splash of lemon
Delete^Sounds like you want to eat him. I'm not sure this is a dating site.
DeleteSo says Archaic Ad Hominem who at least twice tried to discredit Sykes. Now that Sykes has produced a bear result, AAH embraces him and calls other smoked.
DeleteAs predicted.
Skeptard moving goalpost in action.
^Exactly 9:57
Deleteto much reading just want stuck ape body.
DeleteYeah it's not fair that the skeptics move the goalposts and change their minds, they're stealing tactics from the Footards.
DeleteSeriously, how badly are you guys crying so far? How much worse are the tantrums going to get when Sykes' full report is out and he makes you all look like delusional fools once again?
It's really interesting to note that the Bigfoot believers' reactions to Sykes' revelations is not to engage with the information itself but to obsess over what they perceived the skeptics' position to be concerning the evidence. It's becoming increasingly clear that the believers are much more concerned with people's perceptions of them rathern than with anything such as evidence or scientific opinion.
DeleteI'm starting to think that the believers place much much more value in finally being proved right rather than valuing things such as evidence, logic or good sense.
I've heard several skeptics claiming that they'd change their position if they were presented with sufficient quality evidence but I've never heard anything even remotely similar from a believer.
So Sykes found a bear. How does this disprove Bigfoot again?
DeleteThat is absolute laughable crap right there!
DeleteHa ha ha ha!!!
You need a full deck before you can play fair sonny... It's denialism and censorship that has stopped this subject moving forward, so don't for one second imply what Footers think, you know nothing of what Footers are skeptical of.
You suggest Bigfoot is not real now that a new bear has been found and then expect us to swallow that as 'scientific method'.
Embarassed for you.
Sykes is coming Joe
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DeleteLONDON (AP) — A British scientist says he may have solved the mystery of the Abominable Snowman — the elusive ape-like creature of the Himalayas. He thinks it's a bear.
DeleteDNA analysis conducted by Oxford University genetics professor Bryan Sykes suggests the creature, also known as the Yeti, is the descendant of an ancient polar bear.
Sykes compared DNA from hair samples taken from two Himalayan animals — identified by local people as Yetis — to a database of animal genomes. He found they shared a genetic fingerprint with a polar bear jawbone found in the Norwegian Arctic that is at least 40,000 years old.
Sykes said Thursday that the tests showed the creatures were not related to modern Himalayan bears but were direct descendants of the prehistoric animal.
He said, "it may be a new species, it may be a hybrid" between polar bears and brown bears.
"The next thing is go there and find one."
Sykes put out a call last year for museums, scientists and Yeti aficionados to share hair samples thought to be from the creature.
One of the samples he analyzed came from an alleged Yeti mummy in the Indian region of Ladakh, at the Western edge of the Himalayas, and was taken by a French mountaineer who was shown the corpse 40 years ago.
The other was a single hair found a decade ago in Bhutan, 800 miles (1,300 kilometers) to the east.
Sykes said the fact the hair samples were found so far apart, and so recently, suggests the members of the species are still alive.
"I can't imagine we managed to get samples from the only two 'snow bears' in the Himalayas," he said.
Finding a living creature could explain whether differences in appearance and behavior to other bears account for descriptions of the Yeti as a hairy hominid.
"The polar bear ingredient in their genomes may have changed their behavior so they act different, look different, maybe walk on two feet more often," he said.
Sykes' research has not been published, but he says he has submitted it for peer review. His findings will be broadcast Sunday in a television program on Britain's Channel 4.
Tom Gilbert, professor of paleogenomics at the Natural History Museum of Denmark, said Sykes' research provided a "reasonable explanation" for Yeti sightings.
"It's a lot easier to believe that than if he had found something else," said Gilbert, who was not involved in the study. "If he had said it's some kind of new primate, I'd want to see all the data."
Sykes' findings are unlikely to lay the myth of the Yeti to rest.
The Yeti or Abominmable Snowman is one of a number of legendary ape-like beasts — along with Sasquatch and Bigfoot — reputed to live in heavily forested or snowy mountains. Scientists are skeptical, but decades of eyewitness reports, blurry photos and stories have kept the legend alive.
"I do not think the study gives any comfort to Yeti-believers," David Frayer, a professor of biological anthropology at the University of Kansas, said in an email. But "no amount of scientific data will ever shake their belief."
"If (Sykes') motivation for doing the analyses is to refute the Yeti nonsense, then good luck," he said.
Sykes said he was simply trying "to inject some science into a rather murky field."
"The Yeti, the Bigfoot, is surrounded in myth and hoaxes," he said. "But you can't invent a DNA sequence from a hair."
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Jill Lawless can be reached at http://Twitter.com/JillLawless
Associated Press
Found this on AP about 30minutes ago..Bummed but not forgotten
DeleteStrange that this Gilbert character said:
Delete"If he had said it's some kind of new primate, I'd want to see all the data."
So because it's claimed to be a bear hybrid, he doesn't need to see all the data?
Scientists sure are fallible, my.
You don't see that people would react differently to statements along the lines of "X is something fairly ordinary and we have a whole bunch of evidence to back that up" and "X is something completely new and we have a whole bunch of evidence to back that up"???
DeleteI'm waiting for Sunday
ReplyDeleteMost people are but the skeptards claim that one short newspaper article IS the study, so don't bother to watch or read whatever else Sykes produces.
DeleteThey also claim his "The are here" comment is about the bear hybrid, without any evidence that that is what it was about.
A lot of assuming skeptards about these days. Not a logical bunch.
Okay that was lost on you, try this one.
DeleteI'm waiting for Saturday the 14th
Has anyone heard from MMG after yesterday's revelations?
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely smoked.
Its clear on the previous thread that the bff have had to wheel out some of the big guns for damage control. Most likely mulder and dwa have been commenting on here trying to salvage the debacle.
"They were here" - "Yes theyre here"
Talking about this bear of course not a magic ape.
Such is it to be a footer to think if he is writing a paper and a book that it HAS to be about a magic ape. This is all kinds of crazy.
Sharon hill was right all along. That must piss you footers off big time.
Also I have noticed that footers are now bringing out the excuse that a negative result does not disprove bigfoot. Well this is downplaying the situation in a big way. When the best, yes the BEST samples, vetted by none other than the head of bigfoot meldrum, sworn to be from a bigfoot, come back as bear or other known animals then this unequivocally proves that footers are full of horse shit.
Got monkey?
Bryan Sykes says nope.
Bryan Sykes is the scientist that footers have wanted for years but the bigfoot community is not happy that he did not validate the fantasy.
Absolutely pwned.
Would you like a toasted teacake?
Deletegot any bear claws?
DeleteSharon Hill is a paid scoftic. She is a fraud who complains about her posts being deleted, while she simultaneously deletes posts on her website, that point out her falicies. For instance, her giant falicy of continuously failing to gain field experience, but instead, supposedly being scientifical and imagining that she knows all by studying Bigfoot from the comfort of her living room.
DeleteThe more important point being, if she's good in bed, who cares?
DeleteYah, you owned em on the internet. Give yourself a fap.
Delete9:01
DeleteYou do not know if "They are here" refers to the bear, or a rhino, or a spaceman, or your mother in the kitchen.
The density is tiresome: "A DNA sample of a known animal proves yeti doesn't exist." It's old, it's wrong, it's illogical, it shows a lack of reason and intelligence.
Congratulations copy/paste nerd trying to fit in.
You're not.
"The density is tiresome: "A DNA sample of a known animal proves yeti doesn't exist." It's old, it's wrong, it's illogical, it shows a lack of reason and intelligence."
DeleteHas anyone actually ever said that? Or is that just a strawman argument you created on your own so you can shoot it down and feel intellectually superior?
I bet that, on the last show of the series, Sykes blows our minds with proof of a North American Squatch. Skeptards.....listen, there is no way that Bigfoot isn't out there. There have been WAY too many encounters, some close up, some by multiple witnesses. We are talking about thousands of sightings. Remember this, IF ONE OF THESE SIGHTINGS (JUST ONE) IS FOR REAL, THAT MEANS, EVERY HARD CORE SKEPTIC IS A FULL OF SHIT, ASS-CLOWN.
ReplyDeleteUntil proven, consider yourself SMOKED like
DeleteJoe Camel.
Archaic Ad Hominem, because you at least twice tried to discredit Sykes in recent weeks, and are now embracing his results and using them as ammunition, consider yourself well and truly hypocritical.
Delete"I bet that, on the last show of the series, Sykes blows our minds with proof of a North American Squatch."
DeleteAh ha ha ha ha, keep reaching for that Squatchy rainbow. You'll reach it one day, I'm sure. :D
The greatest scientific discovery of all time, in a mini series? Think about it. He wouldn't waste his time, it would be released in a scientific journal.
DeleteAre you eating acid again nonarchaic
DeleteI'll bet those sherpas had a good laugh.
ReplyDeleteThey've been having a good laugh at the expense of dumb Westerners' for decades.
DeleteThey know that these 'explorers' (tourists and TV crews) will spend a lot more money if they hear stories and see shoddy footprints that back up their ridiculous theories so they've been faking it every chance they get.
Yea,them Sherpas pulled some pubez off their grannies snatch! LMFAO!!!
DeleteOne man's yeti DNA is a mislabeled GenBank's polar bear DNA. The Yeti DNA would never have been allowed to be entered in the database, if it was entered as Yeti DNA. The yahoo's that claimed it to be a polar bear, had only a limited number of known species from which to choose it's identity. Yeti was not a scientifically recognized known species at the time from which they could choose, and it still isn't. Therefore, they could not classify the DNA from the "jawbone of unknown origin" , as Yeti DNA. If they reclassified the DNA as Yeti DNA, then as scientists, they would be compelled to delete all record of it ever being there, from their entire database. That's how modern science works.
ReplyDeleteAll kinds of crazy^
DeletePlease go back to the BFF tarpit
9:48 knuckle-dragging skeptard possessing impressively developmentally stunted monkey brain.
DeleteKeep on tardin' baby.
So Sykes' results are just part of a giant conspiracy to keep the truth hidden?
DeleteOh you poor sad fool. :(
Is this how people really think at the BFF?
DeleteYou're as delusional as PJ.
Joe got Bloked.
ReplyDeleteThe Bear / DNA story is on CNN news online. Hey boo boo , hows about we find us a picknic basket.
ReplyDeleteUNBELIEVABLE
ReplyDeleteThe resident butthurt footer is now claiming that the 40,000 year old polar bear jaw bone was actually from a yeti so the DNA is labelled incorrectly in genbank and sykes modern sample matches because it is also yeti.
You literally can not make this up.
Simply UNBELIEVABLE.
Sure is, but funny as hell
DeleteYou can make anything up with a little intelligence and some creativity. Sounds like you might be lacking in this department.
DeleteTruth is stranger than fiction. You can write that down.
DeleteWill local building code allow me to fill my basement with Tribbles?
DeleteWe've inherited a house with a curse
ReplyDeleteStupid footers, Sharon Hill, Dan campbell, and others have been right this whole time. NO LEAPING RUSSIAN YETI.
ReplyDeleteUncle Henry says "Don't open the book"
DeleteIts a bloke in a suit.
ReplyDeleteA bear suit!
DeleteJustin Smega " I shot a funny looking bear" = I shot a bear. NO BIGFOOT
ReplyDeleteHey Joe, Sykes is coming!
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You've been obnoxiously copy/pasting that TICK TOCK stuff for months now and you were completely wrong and we're not going to let you forget it, you smug jerk.
How does Sykes discovery of a bear disprove Bigfoot again?
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DeleteTo the guy who is too stupid to debate me, too stupid to come up with anything original and too stupid to realize that I can't lose...
Ha!
If that those comments got to you... That makes me very happy... And I'm not going anywhere and am gonna get to you before any reverse situation happens.
Bring it on.
I can handle being wrong over a handful of samples...
DeleteA handful of samples won't matter to you in a couple of weeks once I drill it into you they have no effect on Footery.
Schooled, now shut up and sit down.
Sykes is coming Joe
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And brought you a bear.
DeleteSchooled.
Reality check -
ReplyDeleteYou have not disproved Yeti by bear being sequenced as DNA.
You will not disprove Bigfoot, should known animals be sequenced as DNA.
Sykes... As has been outlined; is only as good as his samples.
Convenient that people should now look for as much closure as quickly as possible and suggest that these samples are 'the best this field has to offer'... The fact is, that you don't know much at all.
The plain and simple fact IS...
You still haven't debunked Bigfoot. Put that in your proverbial pipe and smoke it.
Reality check served.
You are soooooooo desperate for closure right now. You people never managed to grasp this weeks ago but I have no problem with repeating myself as much as it takes.
Laughably... You do not disprove a species by finding a new one. This is pretty basic child's mental capacity level to understand. The only people who are claiming that the samples submitted were the best that this field has to offer... Is you people. Very obvious considering you require something so bad to back up your claims.
Now you are quite welcome to exaggerate what these results mean in an effort back up your claims... But you are merely behaving like children on a school yard by suggesting that a new species of bear, renders Bigfoot a fantasy. That is something that I'm sure most skeptics will tell you. It merely begs the question... What other species' remain hidden fro science in that region.
'The scientific method' would not use a new form of discovered bear to render a controversial species in Bigfoot a fantasy... Dermals, unknown primate DNA a transcribed language, ten thousand years of acknowledgement, footage... To suggest that a newly discovered bear means none of that is real, isn't particularly well thought through. A scientific method would investigate those sources I provided and not assume a new bear renders them insignificant.
But you maintain that science is right to now debunk Bigfoot because it has found a new species of bear?
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Keep it up Tards... You're doing your theory group very proud. Just the way I like it.
Schooled.
I'm going to wait until all episodes air then come back and chuckle
DeleteSykes is coming Joe
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If you'd been smoked any harder you would have turned into beef jerky :D
VROOM VROOM!!!
DeleteAlllllll Aboard!
"ARE YOU SCARED I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DON'T?!?!?"
That's one of my favorite fails from PJ, I'm thinking about goin back and copy pasting all of his "Sykes is coming and your scared." Crap before he deletes it!
You're quite welcome to... I'll still be here, and by the time I'm done... You'll be sick of hearing about bears Crampz.
DeleteAnd now the question raises up: how can be disproved something that does not exist?
DeleteJoe, could you kindly let me know how you would disprove the existence of, let's say, a 50 meters long snake that I'm suggesting may have lived 20 Million years ago?
haha you're so ridicoulous...
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So you're precious Dr. Sykes has rained on you're parade. Quit pretending it does not bother you. You have probably not slept since the announcment. Every thing you have banked on is now ammo US
ReplyDeleteWell he did do it to himeself
DeleteSykes is coming!
He came alright and give Joe a serious pearl knecklace. Lol
DeleteNo one would have cared that much except that people like Joe have been INCREDIBLY smug and obnoxious over Sykes these last few months. You reap what you sew and that obnoxious behavior is coming back to haunt them.
Delete12:32 is exactly right. This is why no one but PJ and MMG are getting ripped up on about it.
DeleteScared.
DeleteYou'll be sick of hearing about Bears by the time I'm done.
you give yourself way too much credit like most obnoxious assholes
DeleteSykes is coming Joe
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Ive been a lurker for years now, i was a believer and now im a skeptic - as in i want to believe but i just want more real evidence. I long for the day when the believers are proven correct, and slthough I love Joe's dedication to the cause but it was actually his rants, and i know he gets a hard time, but it's his horribly egotistical rants that put me off and ,it was actually Joe's rants that changed me from to a skeptic. All this 'schooled' 'pwned' 'peace' bullshit makes me want to cringe myself inside out. Im now only a 20% beleiver. What Joe and MMg need to understand is that not all sceptics are trolls or non believers. You can still be a sceptic without being a dick, and i genuinely want to believe and have the existent of Bigfoot proven without a shadow of a doubt, but im gonna need more that word of mouth, eye witness accounts and foot prints. Im on your side, but i dont like it when you go on like you are some kind of forum god.
ReplyDeleteI was such a beleiver and it's actually Joe's rants that have put me off. Im a fellow Englishman, i have to put up with all kinds of bullshit from my friends when they find out my 'secret hobby' and i still keep going. I would just like you to calm the fuck down,, ignore the rude posts and stop copy/pasting all these overy-long rants that we have all heard before. You are obviously an intelient guy, but you are going on a like a bell-end sometimes.
Wind your it in mate, and you will a lot more respect. But currently, unfortunately, i hold your personally responsible for changing me from a believer to a sceptic. Just chill the fuck out bro, you are better than that, and in the mean time you have genuinely killed my dreams and turned my beliefs on their head. Sad times man...
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ReplyDeletePS> Joe, what do you think of Sasquatch Ontario's studies, sometimes i believe them and jump for joy, but the last few videos have had me cringing hard. So, genuine question, do you believe S.O.'s videos?? And if not, why not?
ReplyDeleteAlsoI know you are a great believer in the Leaping Russian Yeti video, and although i love watching it, i just don't believe it. If you say that 'they' are giant, hairy, people and giant apes...then why does the 'giant hair person' in the video act and move like an animal. Surely a 'person' wouldn't run, and jump, and run all fours like that. It looks and acts far more like an animal than anything else, what kind of animal (if it is animal) is it? I have no idea, but it doesn't demonstrate any kind of 'human' traits at all, not in my opinion anyway. So what are they, an undiscovered 8ft bi-pedal ape, or a giant hairy person? It can't be both.
I still think its a guy in a costume, and i even read somewhere that the two guys admitted it was a fake to get on some Russian TV show. I will try and find the link to it...I would love to hear your theories though mate...
And for the PFG, personally, after years of studying it and hearing all the back stories, i am now leaning towards a hoax. But even if it is, it doesn't disprove Bigfoot, it's just a great, if not the best hoax of all time, and that in itself it a great, fun achievement
Also, i have found some recent videos, where the costume looks VERY Patty like, it really changed my ideas, or maybe just confirmed them. I will post the photos later when i find them, one is a video and it looks very convincing and the costume looks exactly like Patty...