Robert Lindsay reveals information about Bigfoot caught in conibear trap incident and a breakdown of Larry Surface's Bigfoot footage, plus details about Bigfoot nuclear DNA results
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| 30 conibear trap of the type that was destroyed by the Bigfoot. No known animal is capable of destroying such a trap. |
Robert Lindsay has just revealed more details about the Erickson Project and the Bigfoot habituation sites they're currently researching.
Also, Lindsay reveals a breakdown of Larry's Surfaces Bigfoot footage provided by R.W. Ridley. Robert believes what Larry caught on tape was an actual Bigfoot and not an old man like some have suggested.
The Sierra Kills Bigfoot shooting incident is talked about in this latest update. Robert says Justin Smeja may have shot the adult Bigfoot from behind as it was trying to get away.
Read below from Robert Lindsay blog (Warning: Long read).
Bigfoot News November 19, 2011
BY ROBERT LINDSAY
Update on the Erickson Project. There has been much speculation on why Erickson took down his site. There are theories flying all over the Internet. The truth should be easy enough to figure out by the process of logical thinking and elementary deduction. In fact, there may well be some very smart folks barking up the right tree as I write this. The EP is not over, through, done, a “fiasco,” or any of those things. Erickson just has a lot more important things to deal with right now than this Bigfoot stuff, which is after all, just a hobby.
This article in the Osoyoos Times of Osoyoos, British Colombia makes it clear what is going on. Erickson’s business has very serious problems, to put it mildly. It’s nearly underwater due to the lousy economy, and he just isn’t selling lots anymore.
Apparently residents were promised paved roads, phone hookups, cellphone service, oil and gas wells, water wells, electricity and all sorts of amenities. Many of these have been delivered only partially, or in some cases not at all. Apparently Erickson lacks the funds to provide these amenities to his residents. As a consequence, he is now being sued by some of the folks who bought his lots.
It’s all a great big mess, and Erickson is under a lot of stress. I doubt if he is in great shape psychologically. After all, stress is hard on the psyche. Whether it’s effecting him physically, I don’t know, but I hope not. What’s sad about all of this is that Erickson is a genuinely nice guy. Looking around at the slimepit that is Bigfootery, it’s clear that Erickson is way too good for this field.
Anyway, as you can see, Erickson has problems up the wazoo. Bigfootery is the last thing from his mind these days.
Why doesn’t Erickson release a teaser from or snippet of his video? This is an interesting question that has been bandied about the blogs. The idea would be to generate a massive amount of interest, speculation and media hype, which he could then use to ride to a good deal for his movie. The truth is that he may well do just that at some point. One problem is that no matter how good the video is, instead of creating a mass of hype and interest, it might just create a firestorm of savage criticism instead.
One problem with even bringing this idea up with Erickson is that he is so mad about the whole Bigfoot scene right now that it’s very difficult to bring up anything relating to Bigfoot with him. He just gets mad and acts like he doesn’t want to talk about it. So it would be a tough sell on that basis alone.
Erickson and the Bigfoot community. Simone Erickson, the wife of Adrian Erickson (see below), released a statement after the website was pulled saying that it was pulled because Erickson was frustrated due to lack of support from the Bigfoot community. Certainly that is at least part of the truth as to why the site was pulled.
Erickson feels that the community has let him down. He has been the lightning rod of a vicious maelstrom of attacks, rage and hatred, and it’s all hurt his feelings. He doesn’t like it at all and he’s bitter and resentful.
Will Erickson release the video? Of course he will! Why would someone, especially a man with as serious financial problems as he has, sit on a veritable gold mine like that? Keep in mind that Erickson is also committed to getting the Bigfoots recognized by science.
He sunk $3 million of his own money into this project out of his own commitment to science. I doubt if he ever hoped to make all of his money back. But he would like to make as much of his money back as is possible, certainly, especially considering his finances. It would be financial suicide to not do so after all.
Erickson’s video and Hollywood. It’s certainly possible that Erickson has already pitched his video to Hollywood. If so, I feel that they may have made him an offer that was much too low for him to take. Let us imagine that the Hollywood people offered Erickson $100,000 for the video. I do not feel that that amount would be acceptable. It could be that Erickson would like to get, say, $1 million for his video. It’s obviously worth it to me, but it’s probably not worth that to Hollywood right now.
Why should Erickson take, say, $100K? For one, it is maybe only 10% of what the video is worth. For another, $100K would not go anywhere to helping him with the financial catastrophe that he is weathering. Now, a cool million? That would probably help him a lot more. And I am certain that Erickson feels that film is worth a lot more than television.
Who is Simone Erickson? Simone Erickson is Adrian Erickson’s wife. She is a Dutch speaker, originally from the Netherlands. She has had 25 years experience working as a photojournalist. She is also very beautiful, with fashion model good looks.
Lately she has been releasing some Erickson Project information on her own. Please do not feel that Erickson is using her as a conduit. She is very much her own woman, and has taken it on herself to make these releases on her own. Whether she checked them out with Erickson beforehand, I have no idea. It would be inaccurate to say that she is 100% under his control. However, my sense is that her social, political and diplomatic skills are excellent.
Bigfoots still active at Golden Ears Provincial Park, British Colombia. Of Erickson’s 6 Bigfoot habituation sites, 5 of them are currently inactive. That means that the Bigfoots took off for parts unknown. No one knows why Bigfoots hang around certain habitations or why they leave for that matter. They may hang around in the first place because they are “curious.”
Of the five sites in the US, including Crittenden, Kentucky, all are abandoned. However, the habitation in Canada in Golden Ears Provincial Park is still active, that is, Bigfoots are still using the park. The Bigfoots using that park have been verified as real Bigfoots by DNA via Melba Ketchum.
Erickson was conned by Ketchum the hoaxer. This is one of the weirder conspiracy theories floating about, mostly on the skeptic boards (see above).
First of all, I do not feel that Melba Ketchum is a hoaxer. Her career would probably be ruined if she was. At the start of the project, she didn’t even believe in Bigfoot. But at least she had an open mind. The theory goes that Ketchum was chosen because she was the only one gullible, stupid or crooked enough to believe the Bigfooters and all of their crooked lies about how they found all of the evidence that they faked and sent in to her. After Ketchum got the evidence, she made up her own hoax about how a Bigfoot genetic profile had been found.
The truth is more mundane. Ketchum was chosen because her lab was the only one open minded enough to even look into the question! That’s all there is to the story.
Erickson is a fool for going into business with Ketchum. This is another notion that is floating around the boards. The truth is that from the very earliest meetings in a large West Coast city of the US, the main players, including Erickson, all realized, “Houston, we have a problem,” as far as Dr. Ketchum went. Nevertheless, they were stuck with her despite their misgivings and decided to wait her out and hope for the best.They had put out the call to many other labs in the country and the response was, “Bigfoot? LOL, I don’t think so, bye.”
Business, political, personal and sexual relationships are formed between humans with misgivings about each other all the time. This is part of being human.
Erickson’s video and Dr. Melba Ketchum’s NDA. It has been suggested that Erickson cannot release any of his video without running the chance of being sued by Ketchum and her Bigfoot DNA project for violating his NDA with her. She could then try to recover all of the proceeds from the video as damages. Although it’s possible that she could sue him on this basis, I doubt if she would win.
Ketchum’s public presentation of Bigfoot DNA. At some point, if her paper ever gets published, Ketchum will probably publically present the data from her paper. This may be in the form of a press conference or something of the sort. However, the NDA that she signed with Erickson states that her presentation will deal mainly or solely with the DNA from Erickson’s samples. Samples from others may be dealt with only in passing or in a cursory way. So the release has to highlight Erickson’s samples and Erickson’s role in the project.
Erickson’s samples represent only 6 Bigfoots out of the 20 separate creatures that Ketchum has identified. Obviously, this is going to make it difficult for Ketchum to release the findings in the way that she prefers and this is probably one of the main drivers for her wanting to renegotiate the NDA.
What happened to Erickson’s samples that he submitted to Ketchum? That is a very good question, and no one knows the answer to it. The quantity of samples that Erickson gave to Ketchum was so large that it is quite dubious that she used up all the samples in testing. Therefore, unless she threw the remainder away, she still probably has some of his samples in her lab.
Why doesn’t he ask for them back? Sources say that Ketchum is the type of person who would not give the sample back to you, even if she did not use up all of it. That’s just the way she is. So even if she still has parts of samples left, she probably won’t give them back.
If she does return a sample, there will probably be nothing of left of it. Larry Jenkins Bigfoot toenail, which tested positive for Bigfoot, was returned to him, but it had been scraped clean of nearly all usable biological matter. Perhaps she used up all that matter in testing? Who knows. But that’s probably the only way that any sample is coming back to anyone – with nothing left on it.
It is true that Mike Rigg’s Bigfoot tooth was apparently given back to him by Ketchum, but she never tested it. There is speculation that the tooth may be part of the Erickson Project’s parallel DNA study out of Europe.
Problems with Ketchum’s peer reviewed Bigfoot study. We know that the study was submitted for peer review in January and was accepted in February. Nevertheless, Ketchum keeps endlessly pushing back the acceptance date. It has now been pushed back all the way to May 2002. Let us hope most of us are still around by then. Peer review can be a drawn out process. In some cases, it can last up to two years, but that is exceptional. So even in terms of peer review, this paper is taking a pretty long time.
Why the delays? My sources say that Ketchum is probably having problems with the peer review. Probably the reviewers are asking for a number of changes in the paper.
Sources say that Ketchum is a difficult person to deal with and does not take advice well. She gets stuck on one idea or way of doing things and then just steamrolls ahead. She does not appreciate criticism and will often not change her work in response to critiques. In a word, she’s bullheaded. Sources said that the peer reviewers may be demanding changes from her that she is unwilling to make.
Nuclear DNA revelations. Soon on this blog, we will give the world the first release of Bigfoot nuclear DNA revelations. Previously, we released data on the mitochondrial side of Bigfoot DNA, which is 100% human, though a rather strange human. The nuclear side is completely different, hominid but not human at all. We will word these revelations carefully so as not to harm any ongoing studies.
“1/3 of the way between a human and a chimp.” We have been quoted as saying that the nuclear side is “1/3 of the way between a human and a chimp.” The source for that quote is a researcher who submitted samples to Ketchum’s DNA project. In addition, Justin Smeja also said, “1/3 of the way between human and chimp.” This is probably in relation to the findings for the Bigfoot steak from the Bigfoot that Smeja shot as part of the Sierra Kills.
There was another comment about nuclear DNA that mentioned the Starchild Skull. My understanding of the Starchild Skull is that the nuclear DNA was about 1/3 of the way from human to chimp.
There is much misunderstanding about this statement. Let me try to clarify this for you in simple English with an analogy. Let us say that a chimp shares 94% of its DNA with humans. Then the nuclear side of Bigfoot DNA would share 98% of its DNA with humans, or 1/3 of the way from a human to a chimp. Are things clearer now?
I do believe that the nuclear side shares 98% DNA with humans, but that figure is very tentative.
Keep in mind that others, including Richard Stubstad, think that the nuclear side may be much closer to humans, along the lines of Neandertal, Denisova, Heidelberg Man or thereabouts.
Bigfoot destroys 330 conibear trap in incredible show of strength. A source tells us that one of the samples that the Erickson Project is working with on their parallel DNA project is a set of hairs with skin attached. I cannot tell you where the sample came from, but it is an active habituation site. A 330 conibear trap is one of the largest traps in existence. There’s no way to destroy that trap. You would need a bulldozer to do that. So the Bigfoot that did that for all intents and purposes had the strength of a bulldozer.
It is interesting to speculate why the Bigfoot destroyed the trap. Was it trying to get an animal out that was trapped in it? Why not just rip the animal out? Did the Bigfoot dislike the trap for some reason? Or, scariest of all, was the Bigfoot actually caught in the trap itself and destroyed the trap to free itself? From the way my source cleverly worded the incident, it sounds as if the Bigfoot was caught in the trap. “The Bigfoot is fine, but it will never want to see another trap like that again,” the source said. It sounds like the Bigfoot was caught in the trap!
Larry Surface’s video is of an actual proven Bigfoot. Larry Surface is an older man with health problems who lives, possibly alone, way out in the woods in Southern Ohio. He had a blog, which has now been taken down, where he chronicled his long-term observations of what he called “the Wild Men” (the Bigfoots) who lived in the thick forest around his home.
At some point, he managed to capture a photo of a Bigfoot on a camera that he was operating from inside his home. The only illumination was from moonlight. Surface believes that moonlight gives you the best photos, and infrared is not recommended for whatever reason.
The video aroused tremendous controversy, and Ketchum quickly told him to take it down because samples from Surface were part of her DNA study. Surface subsequently endured so much harassment from skeptics and presumably our own wonderful community that he shut down his site and called it a day.
What is almost certainly true is that that video is a video of an actual Bigfoot. We know this because Ketchum ordered him to take it down because the samples are part of the study. The samples are presumably only part of the study if they test positive for Bigfoot. Therefore, if she told him to take it down, it must be a video of a Bigfoot.
The Bigfoot video aroused a lot of ire because it supposedly looks like “an old man.” Why an “old man” would be wandering around in the dark in the middle of thick woods on private property with no flashlight and therefore no way to see is not explained. RW Ridley took a screenshot and posted it on his site. It does not look like an old man to me, but it does look human. But then, Bigfoot is simply a man. Looking more closely, it does look like a Bigfoot, with a strange shaped head, a brow ridge, and an ape-like face.
Southern Ohio is very close to Crittenden, Kentucky, one of Erickson’s habitation sites.
New revelations on the Sierra Kills. The Sierra Kills refers to the Bigfoot steak that Justin Smeja acquired above 8,000 feet in the Sierra Nevadas near Gold Lake, California, sometime after October 14, 2010. This now legendary incident is now referred to as the Sierra Kills. The kills themselves happened on October 14, 2010 near Gold Lake, California, as Smeja has now revealed.
Richard Stubstad and I were searching west of Frenchman Lake, California, which is about 25 miles northeast of where the Kills actually happened, but that was the best information that we had at the time. On the road trip, we passed about 10 miles away from where the Kills probably occurred.
The Kills happened near Gold Lake, California, maybe 2 miles or maybe 10 miles away. We know from Derek Randles that the Kills site was above 8,000 feet. The only areas that I can find above 8,000 feet and within 10 miles of Gold Lake are Haskell Peak and the Sierra Buttes. You can look them up on a map or find photos of them on Google Images.
In addition, Smeja’s driver is now talking on the boards for the first time. He offered up much the same story as Smeja did. Previously however, someone I believe was the same man said that Smeja shot the young Bigfoot “for evidence.” I agree that this was probably the reason. He also denies pulling his gun on Smeja and saying, “If you shoot another one of those things, I am going to shoot you instead.” But he does admit to being very mad at Smeja for shooting the little one.
Sierra Kills adult Bigfoot shot in the back. We* have access to the original posts from Taxidermy.net on the Sierra Kills. Smeja’s most important statement on the thread is dated November 7, 2010 at 1:24 AM. This would be almost one month to the day after the Sierra Kills. The original file is out there all right, and some people do have it, but it’s almost impossible to gain access to it as access is jealously guarded. We were very lucky to run across it. We haven’t even finished analyzing them yet. Analysis is difficult due to file format.
But in that thread, Smeja clearly states that he shot the female Bigfoot in the back, between the shoulder blades. This contradicts all later statements that the Bigfoot was shot in the front. The Bigfoot was presumably shot as it was running away. We believe that Smeja’s initial statements are the most accurate. He probably changed the story later to a front shot because it sounds nasty to say he shot the thing as it was running away.
He also shot it at 120 yards, not the 80 yards that he says now. It ran only 70 yards into the brush before it crashed down. When it fell, it sounded like a “car crash.”
*”We” means a team, which may or may not include myself.
How many were with Smeja during the Sierra Kills? Smeja has repeatedly stated since this summer that there was only one other person with him that fateful day, the driver of the truck. However, on the Taxidermy.net thread above, a man who spoke to Smeja repeatedly states that there were 2 other men with Smeja that day, not just one. Smeja makes a number of posts afterwards, but he makes no attempt to correct the man who is saying there were 3 people there that day, not just two. Who is right? How many were there that day, 2 or 3?
Derek Randles’ Bigfoot sightings.We are not sure how much Randles, head of the Olympic Project, talks about this, but our information is that Randles has has ~4-5 good Bigfoot sightings over the 25 years he has been researching. In addition, he has had many other encounters of various types.
Some of the most vicious folks around hang out on skeptic boards. As a scientifically minded person, the skeptic community is a gigantic embarassment. The theory of science that I subscribe to says that the essence of science is an open mind to all hypotheses. And a very open mind towards hypotheses that have a chance of being true.
The skeptic community is made up of “scientific types” who spend most of their time shouting down countless hypotheses that they ipso facto, with little empirical basis, regard as utterly unworthy of investigation. They have set the bar so high for acceptable evidence that many things will simply never be proven.
I am a scientifically minded person, but I hold quite a few “paranormal” or “woo”beliefs.
I’m a Christian. I think Jesus rose from the dead.
I subscribe to a lot of “political conspiracy theories,” especially in foreign policy. Nation-states are after all experts in skullduggery of the worst sort. Skeptics recently said that the notion that the US attacked Libya because Ghaddafi was promoting a new African currency and moving Africa away from the dollar is a “woo” belief. Surely, that was in fact one of the main reasons that the US attacked Libya. A fiat currency must be defended by imperial armies and cashed out in blood after all.
I believe in ghosts and UFO’s, yoga and meditation, life after death, near death experiences, clairvoyance and telepathy. I think people can see when you look at them, even when their back is turned. This is called “the sense of being stared at.” I believe that energy flows and that mental energy of various types can be transmitted to other minds at significant differences, up to 50-100 feet for instance. Other people can certainly read my mental energy at that distance. Can I read theirs? Maybe. I believe in the Loch Ness monster and maybe some other lake monsters.
Of course I reject a lot of “woo” beliefs as scientifically unsound or even as hypotheses that don’t even make sense on the surface.
I don’t see why I should wait around for “mainstream science” to “formally prove” all of the stuff I believe in. A lot of the stuff above will never be proven and it’s hardly even testable. Ghosts, telepathy and clairvoyance are awful hard to prove, and the skeptics will always reject all evidence for their existence, as they have always done. UFO’s may never be proven. A lot of things are just not provable one way or another.
“I can’t comment on that.” People are upset because recently I said that I knew the answer to a big question in the community, but I could not tell you that answer. People thought that was weird and sneaky. But the truth is that I have always had known much more data than appeared in the posts.
I have a great deal of data that has been given to me solely off the record and not to be revealed, especially in print. As an ethical journalist, I try to honor commitments not to reveal off the record data, no matter how Earth-shattering it is. So I’ve always known a lot more than I tell you.
BY ROBERT LINDSAY
Update on the Erickson Project. There has been much speculation on why Erickson took down his site. There are theories flying all over the Internet. The truth should be easy enough to figure out by the process of logical thinking and elementary deduction. In fact, there may well be some very smart folks barking up the right tree as I write this. The EP is not over, through, done, a “fiasco,” or any of those things. Erickson just has a lot more important things to deal with right now than this Bigfoot stuff, which is after all, just a hobby.
This article in the Osoyoos Times of Osoyoos, British Colombia makes it clear what is going on. Erickson’s business has very serious problems, to put it mildly. It’s nearly underwater due to the lousy economy, and he just isn’t selling lots anymore.
Apparently residents were promised paved roads, phone hookups, cellphone service, oil and gas wells, water wells, electricity and all sorts of amenities. Many of these have been delivered only partially, or in some cases not at all. Apparently Erickson lacks the funds to provide these amenities to his residents. As a consequence, he is now being sued by some of the folks who bought his lots.
It’s all a great big mess, and Erickson is under a lot of stress. I doubt if he is in great shape psychologically. After all, stress is hard on the psyche. Whether it’s effecting him physically, I don’t know, but I hope not. What’s sad about all of this is that Erickson is a genuinely nice guy. Looking around at the slimepit that is Bigfootery, it’s clear that Erickson is way too good for this field.
Anyway, as you can see, Erickson has problems up the wazoo. Bigfootery is the last thing from his mind these days.
Why doesn’t Erickson release a teaser from or snippet of his video? This is an interesting question that has been bandied about the blogs. The idea would be to generate a massive amount of interest, speculation and media hype, which he could then use to ride to a good deal for his movie. The truth is that he may well do just that at some point. One problem is that no matter how good the video is, instead of creating a mass of hype and interest, it might just create a firestorm of savage criticism instead.
One problem with even bringing this idea up with Erickson is that he is so mad about the whole Bigfoot scene right now that it’s very difficult to bring up anything relating to Bigfoot with him. He just gets mad and acts like he doesn’t want to talk about it. So it would be a tough sell on that basis alone.
Erickson and the Bigfoot community. Simone Erickson, the wife of Adrian Erickson (see below), released a statement after the website was pulled saying that it was pulled because Erickson was frustrated due to lack of support from the Bigfoot community. Certainly that is at least part of the truth as to why the site was pulled.
Erickson feels that the community has let him down. He has been the lightning rod of a vicious maelstrom of attacks, rage and hatred, and it’s all hurt his feelings. He doesn’t like it at all and he’s bitter and resentful.
Will Erickson release the video? Of course he will! Why would someone, especially a man with as serious financial problems as he has, sit on a veritable gold mine like that? Keep in mind that Erickson is also committed to getting the Bigfoots recognized by science.
He sunk $3 million of his own money into this project out of his own commitment to science. I doubt if he ever hoped to make all of his money back. But he would like to make as much of his money back as is possible, certainly, especially considering his finances. It would be financial suicide to not do so after all.
Erickson’s video and Hollywood. It’s certainly possible that Erickson has already pitched his video to Hollywood. If so, I feel that they may have made him an offer that was much too low for him to take. Let us imagine that the Hollywood people offered Erickson $100,000 for the video. I do not feel that that amount would be acceptable. It could be that Erickson would like to get, say, $1 million for his video. It’s obviously worth it to me, but it’s probably not worth that to Hollywood right now.
Why should Erickson take, say, $100K? For one, it is maybe only 10% of what the video is worth. For another, $100K would not go anywhere to helping him with the financial catastrophe that he is weathering. Now, a cool million? That would probably help him a lot more. And I am certain that Erickson feels that film is worth a lot more than television.
Who is Simone Erickson? Simone Erickson is Adrian Erickson’s wife. She is a Dutch speaker, originally from the Netherlands. She has had 25 years experience working as a photojournalist. She is also very beautiful, with fashion model good looks.
Lately she has been releasing some Erickson Project information on her own. Please do not feel that Erickson is using her as a conduit. She is very much her own woman, and has taken it on herself to make these releases on her own. Whether she checked them out with Erickson beforehand, I have no idea. It would be inaccurate to say that she is 100% under his control. However, my sense is that her social, political and diplomatic skills are excellent.
Bigfoots still active at Golden Ears Provincial Park, British Colombia. Of Erickson’s 6 Bigfoot habituation sites, 5 of them are currently inactive. That means that the Bigfoots took off for parts unknown. No one knows why Bigfoots hang around certain habitations or why they leave for that matter. They may hang around in the first place because they are “curious.”
Of the five sites in the US, including Crittenden, Kentucky, all are abandoned. However, the habitation in Canada in Golden Ears Provincial Park is still active, that is, Bigfoots are still using the park. The Bigfoots using that park have been verified as real Bigfoots by DNA via Melba Ketchum.
Erickson was conned by Ketchum the hoaxer. This is one of the weirder conspiracy theories floating about, mostly on the skeptic boards (see above).
First of all, I do not feel that Melba Ketchum is a hoaxer. Her career would probably be ruined if she was. At the start of the project, she didn’t even believe in Bigfoot. But at least she had an open mind. The theory goes that Ketchum was chosen because she was the only one gullible, stupid or crooked enough to believe the Bigfooters and all of their crooked lies about how they found all of the evidence that they faked and sent in to her. After Ketchum got the evidence, she made up her own hoax about how a Bigfoot genetic profile had been found.
The truth is more mundane. Ketchum was chosen because her lab was the only one open minded enough to even look into the question! That’s all there is to the story.
Erickson is a fool for going into business with Ketchum. This is another notion that is floating around the boards. The truth is that from the very earliest meetings in a large West Coast city of the US, the main players, including Erickson, all realized, “Houston, we have a problem,” as far as Dr. Ketchum went. Nevertheless, they were stuck with her despite their misgivings and decided to wait her out and hope for the best.They had put out the call to many other labs in the country and the response was, “Bigfoot? LOL, I don’t think so, bye.”
Business, political, personal and sexual relationships are formed between humans with misgivings about each other all the time. This is part of being human.
Erickson’s video and Dr. Melba Ketchum’s NDA. It has been suggested that Erickson cannot release any of his video without running the chance of being sued by Ketchum and her Bigfoot DNA project for violating his NDA with her. She could then try to recover all of the proceeds from the video as damages. Although it’s possible that she could sue him on this basis, I doubt if she would win.
Ketchum’s public presentation of Bigfoot DNA. At some point, if her paper ever gets published, Ketchum will probably publically present the data from her paper. This may be in the form of a press conference or something of the sort. However, the NDA that she signed with Erickson states that her presentation will deal mainly or solely with the DNA from Erickson’s samples. Samples from others may be dealt with only in passing or in a cursory way. So the release has to highlight Erickson’s samples and Erickson’s role in the project.
Erickson’s samples represent only 6 Bigfoots out of the 20 separate creatures that Ketchum has identified. Obviously, this is going to make it difficult for Ketchum to release the findings in the way that she prefers and this is probably one of the main drivers for her wanting to renegotiate the NDA.
What happened to Erickson’s samples that he submitted to Ketchum? That is a very good question, and no one knows the answer to it. The quantity of samples that Erickson gave to Ketchum was so large that it is quite dubious that she used up all the samples in testing. Therefore, unless she threw the remainder away, she still probably has some of his samples in her lab.
Why doesn’t he ask for them back? Sources say that Ketchum is the type of person who would not give the sample back to you, even if she did not use up all of it. That’s just the way she is. So even if she still has parts of samples left, she probably won’t give them back.
If she does return a sample, there will probably be nothing of left of it. Larry Jenkins Bigfoot toenail, which tested positive for Bigfoot, was returned to him, but it had been scraped clean of nearly all usable biological matter. Perhaps she used up all that matter in testing? Who knows. But that’s probably the only way that any sample is coming back to anyone – with nothing left on it.
It is true that Mike Rigg’s Bigfoot tooth was apparently given back to him by Ketchum, but she never tested it. There is speculation that the tooth may be part of the Erickson Project’s parallel DNA study out of Europe.
Problems with Ketchum’s peer reviewed Bigfoot study. We know that the study was submitted for peer review in January and was accepted in February. Nevertheless, Ketchum keeps endlessly pushing back the acceptance date. It has now been pushed back all the way to May 2002. Let us hope most of us are still around by then. Peer review can be a drawn out process. In some cases, it can last up to two years, but that is exceptional. So even in terms of peer review, this paper is taking a pretty long time.
Why the delays? My sources say that Ketchum is probably having problems with the peer review. Probably the reviewers are asking for a number of changes in the paper.
Sources say that Ketchum is a difficult person to deal with and does not take advice well. She gets stuck on one idea or way of doing things and then just steamrolls ahead. She does not appreciate criticism and will often not change her work in response to critiques. In a word, she’s bullheaded. Sources said that the peer reviewers may be demanding changes from her that she is unwilling to make.
Nuclear DNA revelations. Soon on this blog, we will give the world the first release of Bigfoot nuclear DNA revelations. Previously, we released data on the mitochondrial side of Bigfoot DNA, which is 100% human, though a rather strange human. The nuclear side is completely different, hominid but not human at all. We will word these revelations carefully so as not to harm any ongoing studies.
“1/3 of the way between a human and a chimp.” We have been quoted as saying that the nuclear side is “1/3 of the way between a human and a chimp.” The source for that quote is a researcher who submitted samples to Ketchum’s DNA project. In addition, Justin Smeja also said, “1/3 of the way between human and chimp.” This is probably in relation to the findings for the Bigfoot steak from the Bigfoot that Smeja shot as part of the Sierra Kills.
There was another comment about nuclear DNA that mentioned the Starchild Skull. My understanding of the Starchild Skull is that the nuclear DNA was about 1/3 of the way from human to chimp.
There is much misunderstanding about this statement. Let me try to clarify this for you in simple English with an analogy. Let us say that a chimp shares 94% of its DNA with humans. Then the nuclear side of Bigfoot DNA would share 98% of its DNA with humans, or 1/3 of the way from a human to a chimp. Are things clearer now?
I do believe that the nuclear side shares 98% DNA with humans, but that figure is very tentative.
Keep in mind that others, including Richard Stubstad, think that the nuclear side may be much closer to humans, along the lines of Neandertal, Denisova, Heidelberg Man or thereabouts.
Bigfoot destroys 330 conibear trap in incredible show of strength. A source tells us that one of the samples that the Erickson Project is working with on their parallel DNA project is a set of hairs with skin attached. I cannot tell you where the sample came from, but it is an active habituation site. A 330 conibear trap is one of the largest traps in existence. There’s no way to destroy that trap. You would need a bulldozer to do that. So the Bigfoot that did that for all intents and purposes had the strength of a bulldozer.
It is interesting to speculate why the Bigfoot destroyed the trap. Was it trying to get an animal out that was trapped in it? Why not just rip the animal out? Did the Bigfoot dislike the trap for some reason? Or, scariest of all, was the Bigfoot actually caught in the trap itself and destroyed the trap to free itself? From the way my source cleverly worded the incident, it sounds as if the Bigfoot was caught in the trap. “The Bigfoot is fine, but it will never want to see another trap like that again,” the source said. It sounds like the Bigfoot was caught in the trap!
Larry Surface’s video is of an actual proven Bigfoot. Larry Surface is an older man with health problems who lives, possibly alone, way out in the woods in Southern Ohio. He had a blog, which has now been taken down, where he chronicled his long-term observations of what he called “the Wild Men” (the Bigfoots) who lived in the thick forest around his home.
At some point, he managed to capture a photo of a Bigfoot on a camera that he was operating from inside his home. The only illumination was from moonlight. Surface believes that moonlight gives you the best photos, and infrared is not recommended for whatever reason.
The video aroused tremendous controversy, and Ketchum quickly told him to take it down because samples from Surface were part of her DNA study. Surface subsequently endured so much harassment from skeptics and presumably our own wonderful community that he shut down his site and called it a day.
What is almost certainly true is that that video is a video of an actual Bigfoot. We know this because Ketchum ordered him to take it down because the samples are part of the study. The samples are presumably only part of the study if they test positive for Bigfoot. Therefore, if she told him to take it down, it must be a video of a Bigfoot.
The Bigfoot video aroused a lot of ire because it supposedly looks like “an old man.” Why an “old man” would be wandering around in the dark in the middle of thick woods on private property with no flashlight and therefore no way to see is not explained. RW Ridley took a screenshot and posted it on his site. It does not look like an old man to me, but it does look human. But then, Bigfoot is simply a man. Looking more closely, it does look like a Bigfoot, with a strange shaped head, a brow ridge, and an ape-like face.
[Copyright Image by Larry Surface not shown]
Southern Ohio is very close to Crittenden, Kentucky, one of Erickson’s habitation sites.
New revelations on the Sierra Kills. The Sierra Kills refers to the Bigfoot steak that Justin Smeja acquired above 8,000 feet in the Sierra Nevadas near Gold Lake, California, sometime after October 14, 2010. This now legendary incident is now referred to as the Sierra Kills. The kills themselves happened on October 14, 2010 near Gold Lake, California, as Smeja has now revealed.
Richard Stubstad and I were searching west of Frenchman Lake, California, which is about 25 miles northeast of where the Kills actually happened, but that was the best information that we had at the time. On the road trip, we passed about 10 miles away from where the Kills probably occurred.
The Kills happened near Gold Lake, California, maybe 2 miles or maybe 10 miles away. We know from Derek Randles that the Kills site was above 8,000 feet. The only areas that I can find above 8,000 feet and within 10 miles of Gold Lake are Haskell Peak and the Sierra Buttes. You can look them up on a map or find photos of them on Google Images.
In addition, Smeja’s driver is now talking on the boards for the first time. He offered up much the same story as Smeja did. Previously however, someone I believe was the same man said that Smeja shot the young Bigfoot “for evidence.” I agree that this was probably the reason. He also denies pulling his gun on Smeja and saying, “If you shoot another one of those things, I am going to shoot you instead.” But he does admit to being very mad at Smeja for shooting the little one.
Sierra Kills adult Bigfoot shot in the back. We* have access to the original posts from Taxidermy.net on the Sierra Kills. Smeja’s most important statement on the thread is dated November 7, 2010 at 1:24 AM. This would be almost one month to the day after the Sierra Kills. The original file is out there all right, and some people do have it, but it’s almost impossible to gain access to it as access is jealously guarded. We were very lucky to run across it. We haven’t even finished analyzing them yet. Analysis is difficult due to file format.
But in that thread, Smeja clearly states that he shot the female Bigfoot in the back, between the shoulder blades. This contradicts all later statements that the Bigfoot was shot in the front. The Bigfoot was presumably shot as it was running away. We believe that Smeja’s initial statements are the most accurate. He probably changed the story later to a front shot because it sounds nasty to say he shot the thing as it was running away.
He also shot it at 120 yards, not the 80 yards that he says now. It ran only 70 yards into the brush before it crashed down. When it fell, it sounded like a “car crash.”
*”We” means a team, which may or may not include myself.
How many were with Smeja during the Sierra Kills? Smeja has repeatedly stated since this summer that there was only one other person with him that fateful day, the driver of the truck. However, on the Taxidermy.net thread above, a man who spoke to Smeja repeatedly states that there were 2 other men with Smeja that day, not just one. Smeja makes a number of posts afterwards, but he makes no attempt to correct the man who is saying there were 3 people there that day, not just two. Who is right? How many were there that day, 2 or 3?
Derek Randles’ Bigfoot sightings.We are not sure how much Randles, head of the Olympic Project, talks about this, but our information is that Randles has has ~4-5 good Bigfoot sightings over the 25 years he has been researching. In addition, he has had many other encounters of various types.
Some of the most vicious folks around hang out on skeptic boards. As a scientifically minded person, the skeptic community is a gigantic embarassment. The theory of science that I subscribe to says that the essence of science is an open mind to all hypotheses. And a very open mind towards hypotheses that have a chance of being true.
The skeptic community is made up of “scientific types” who spend most of their time shouting down countless hypotheses that they ipso facto, with little empirical basis, regard as utterly unworthy of investigation. They have set the bar so high for acceptable evidence that many things will simply never be proven.
I am a scientifically minded person, but I hold quite a few “paranormal” or “woo”beliefs.
I’m a Christian. I think Jesus rose from the dead.
I subscribe to a lot of “political conspiracy theories,” especially in foreign policy. Nation-states are after all experts in skullduggery of the worst sort. Skeptics recently said that the notion that the US attacked Libya because Ghaddafi was promoting a new African currency and moving Africa away from the dollar is a “woo” belief. Surely, that was in fact one of the main reasons that the US attacked Libya. A fiat currency must be defended by imperial armies and cashed out in blood after all.
I believe in ghosts and UFO’s, yoga and meditation, life after death, near death experiences, clairvoyance and telepathy. I think people can see when you look at them, even when their back is turned. This is called “the sense of being stared at.” I believe that energy flows and that mental energy of various types can be transmitted to other minds at significant differences, up to 50-100 feet for instance. Other people can certainly read my mental energy at that distance. Can I read theirs? Maybe. I believe in the Loch Ness monster and maybe some other lake monsters.
Of course I reject a lot of “woo” beliefs as scientifically unsound or even as hypotheses that don’t even make sense on the surface.
I don’t see why I should wait around for “mainstream science” to “formally prove” all of the stuff I believe in. A lot of the stuff above will never be proven and it’s hardly even testable. Ghosts, telepathy and clairvoyance are awful hard to prove, and the skeptics will always reject all evidence for their existence, as they have always done. UFO’s may never be proven. A lot of things are just not provable one way or another.
“I can’t comment on that.” People are upset because recently I said that I knew the answer to a big question in the community, but I could not tell you that answer. People thought that was weird and sneaky. But the truth is that I have always had known much more data than appeared in the posts.
I have a great deal of data that has been given to me solely off the record and not to be revealed, especially in print. As an ethical journalist, I try to honor commitments not to reveal off the record data, no matter how Earth-shattering it is. So I’ve always known a lot more than I tell you.
[via robertlindsay.wordpress.com]
hmmmmm......I absilutely want to ask this guy some pointed questions. He answers a lot, but........this is actually a great post! Still digesting it.
ReplyDeleteyeah me too..
ReplyDelete"What is almost certainly true is that that video is a video of an actual Bigfoot." What? I watched the clip a number of times. How can anyone believe that a sasquatch is the subject of the video?
ReplyDeleteSet out dozens of these traps, and put a camera at each.
ReplyDeleteThis is a load of Robert Lindsay crap. He has the worst case of confirmation bias in history. Adrian Erickson ran out of money chasing a non-existent critter but it is somehow the fault of everybody else.
ReplyDeleteAt a wedding, and shouldn't be checking for bigfoot updates.......I think I just crossed a line.
ReplyDeleteSounds like a great post, gonna half to absorb tomorrow at some point.
Paul
@paul go to Lindsay's post for you tonight LOL
ReplyDeleteThat was a big read.Like others,I need time to chew on this for awhile.
ReplyDeleteGreat post.
Sasquatch does not wait for weddings...:)
ReplyDeleteI am still keeping an open mind toward bigfoot, but I think it's pretty rich that Robert Lindsay, of all people, is dissing skeptics. What kind of moral high ground can someone like him claim?
ReplyDeleteYou might notice that he's being a jerkwad to bigfoot believers, too, for questioning. Of course you should question! Only goose-steppers don't question. And good for you for doing so.
I'm proud of my skepticism. It helps me stand for so much more and fall for so much less.
People take Lindsay way to serious, you know if you look up is track record as to factual statements he is running about 50%. He throws a whole lot of crap against the wall and then sits back to see what sticks, that's how he works. I admit he is good a putting a story together but the story takes all kind of twists and turns as he has to eat his words chew them back up then spit them out for another round. Tabloids work the same way.
ReplyDeletethink of the MIB line..."read the Enquirer if you want to know where the aliens are."
ReplyDelete8 year-olds dude
ReplyDeleteNo, but seriously, RL is a total pedophile
ReplyDeleteI was halfway listening to what he was saying, until it got to the part where he said Larry's video was of a real bigfoot...... What? LOL. Your BS story really fell apart at that point.
ReplyDeleteIf Ketchum did tell Larry to take it down, (which I doubt) it was probably because it was such an obvious fake. If he has donated anything to the DNA project, this video would put her in an awkward position.
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to the night vision clip of "bigfoot," to anybody who believes that this is without a doubt a sasquatch, I'll have to quote Bugs Bunny, "What a gulli-bull, what a nincowpoop." It's no wonder that so many skeptics/critics laugh at bigfoot believers like me and call us naive. This clip is receiving ridicule and rightly so.
ReplyDeleteMy take? If it's no-go we'll hear pronto, b/c I don't think Larry will hang on to just hopes. If deemed adequate supporting evidence for his DNA contribution then the peer-reviewers will have decided for us! It's that easy! LOL
ReplyDelete@apehuman
ReplyDeleteI'll accept evidence. Really. That's what good skeptics do. I used to be a fundamentalist right-wing Christian. By my screen name, you can probably tell I'm not anymore. :)
Scientists proved evolution with evidence and I changed my mind. I found nothing but mere assertions when it came to the idea of religions and I changed my mind. For awhile I thought there might be something to the 9-11 truth movement, but I saw evidence that adequately refuted it and I changed my mind.
Robert Lindsay's entire post is NOTHING BUT assertions. There is NO real evidence. That is why he must hide behind a smoke screen of emotionality: "Waaaaaaah! You're treating (Larry, Erickson, whomever) like dirt by questioning them. Waaaaaaaah! Shame on you!"
It's interesting that he is painting Ketchum as the bad guy in all this. Is he a misogynist? I'm beginning to re-think everything I've heard from this guy. I honestly don't think he's trustworthy.
We should all back away slowly when he starts to mention all the other things he believes in without proof: ghosts, UFOs, Jesus rising from the dead. His mind is polluted because he does not know how to think critically.
Many Americans suffer from the same malady. Our inability to think clearly is one reason why our nation is in serious trouble.
Again: I really do hope bigfoot exists, but so far I've seen very little real evidence. Assertions don't count. Due to the delays and political maneuvering, my "hope" is fading fast.
Vaporware.
If you think scientists have "proven" evolution, you are either ignorant or deluded. For someone who talks a lot about evidence, you obviously have no problem ignoring the huge lack of it with regards to this scientific THEORY - something more and more scientists are having problems doing. As for religions, they are by definition based on and a result of faith, which is the exact opposite of science. I find it interesting that you reject religion due to a lack of evidence yet have no problem having faith in science, which repeatedly has had to be revised/updated/overturned despite being "proven" by so-called facts and evidence that are anything but.
DeleteYou know what, Atheist? You're no better than Robert himself.
DeleteOnce again, the guys a pedophile
ReplyDelete@atheist thanks for thoughtful post. I can't say what the Truth is with regards to the Universe and those really big questions - a persona journey for us all.
ReplyDeleteBut, I have "earned" (lol everyone is self-appointed in BF world) an opinion about BF's and the last several years hopes that were left to wilt.
A lot of what he is writing "makes sense" and would explain a great deal of the frustrations I have experienced about the "community" generally.
However, I am left with a bit of a sinking feeling, watching this unfold with such a difficult start...that perhaps we shall be waiting much longer time for it to completely unfold.
@anonymous
ReplyDeleteRL is a pedophile? Seriously? Do you have a link?
@apehuman
If bigfoot is important to you, I understand your frustrations. I don't have much of a dog in this hunt. I'd like to believe in bigfoot, but I haven't invested a lot of time / emotion / etc. on the phenomenon.
I did, however, have a deep vested interest in Christianity. My entire world view was based on it. All my friends and family were fundamentalist Christians. Deciding it was a load of crap changed my entire life, turned it upside down. I lost friends and family members.
Losing a belief in bigfoot probably isn't quite that traumatic unless there is some all-bigfoot community of which I am unaware. ;) However, if you have an emotional investment in bigfoot, the recent events and sinking feeling might give you some pain, maybe even quite a lot of pain.
As for myself, I think it would be wonderful to find out we're not alone, not the last species of Homo on the planet. It would be wonderful if we learned bigfoot was a more peaceful version of ourselves. Maybe it would give us hope. People who believe in the UFO phenomenon have similar feelings. We don't want to be alone.
The problem is what we wish and what is reality often don't mesh. We may have to eventually accept that we are alone.
I still hope bigfoot is real. I hope this is just a setback, but something doesn't "feel right" about recent events.
nice stuff atheist... I prefer the truth whatever it is, as it never seems quite as bad as imagination..my experience anyway!
ReplyDelete@Athiest
ReplyDeleteLike I said, he is a woman hating racist bigot. Stop JUST reading his blogs about Bigfoot. The guy archives everything. If his blog were a pie chart it would read like this: 3percent Bigfoot bs, 17percent RL justifying his own pedophilia (and being backed up in his comments by other pedophiles) , 28percent machismo dripping woman hating, and 52percent racist rants. And don't try to comment if you disagree with any of his views, you will be deleted in ten minutes. Don't think this creep has time to do much else than puke hate at the keyboard all day.
@Athiest
ReplyDeleteCheck out an article titled, "Strange incident in a shoe store." Should clear the whole thing up for you.
@Atheist - yes, he is absolutely a misogynist as well as a racist. Thinks women are infantile and irrational at the same time as being cunning and strategically manipulative. Doesn't seem too keen on the gays, either, which is unfortunate for him as he claims they hit on him all the time. He also likes to 'observe' young girls. While driving by schools. With sunglasses on.
ReplyDeleteI had the misfortune to read a few of his other posts after I read the linked Bigfoot one, and had to disinfect my browser afterward.
Atheist in FundyLand,
ReplyDeleteJust because you gave up on Christianity is no reason to call it a "load of crap". This is basically calling Christians stupid.
Why you even had to being it up is still puzzling me. Did you really need to use it as a way to example belief? Or did you just want to sound off about being above it all now?
I don't see why Lindsay used it either, especially since I can go find terrible racial quotes from him that spew hatred.
I won't even get into his inability to handle a different point of view that his.
Shawn has plenty of contacts and more than enough proprietary information. That's not exclusive to Lindsay.
While I may agree with some of what he says, I will never associate with him directly as he has a terrible attitude and IMO is a coward.
Scott McMan
Ghosttheory.com
Livestock, such as cattle or horses could destroy a 330 conibear, especially if it was a cheap made one. Man could also destroy it. What hair or track evidence does he have?
ReplyDeleteBigfoot exists, Ive seen the pictures of a dead one. My uncle and some friends killed one in 1943 in the North Georgia Mtns. He used to show me pictures of the beast. It weighed about 800 lbs. and had long filthy hair all over and a big eye(which they shot out) right in the middle of it's pointed head.
ReplyDeleteSadly the pictures were destroyed in a house fire along with my uncle in the early 70's. But I can still see them in my mind and the most interesting thing about the creature was the size of his nuts. I mean this mofo had nuts that were calused from dragging on the ground, looked like they were covered in tree bark,looked like 2 basketball in a sack. I remember thinking to myself as a small by"Damn at the size of the nuts on that sombitch" I always called him the Nutdragger, but it has to be the same creature as bigfoot. Big old nutdragging basterd.