BREAKING: Finding Bigfoot Production Company Seeks Filming Permit In Virginia
Rumors abound on whether or not Finding Bigfoot will continue, but hopeful news is on the horizon. Snake Oil Productions, the production company responsible for Finding Bigfoot, is seeking a permit for filming in the Monterey, Virginia area. Monterey lies between the Monongahela and George Washington National Forests. Definitely a good place to look for bigfoot. We can only speculate if this means Finding Bigfoot has been signed on for additional seasons, or if perhaps a new bigfoot show is in the works. We'll keep you updated on any further announcements for sure.
I hope joe gets killed in a terrorist attack and is beheaded on live TV
ReplyDeleteAre you the new bloody poster boy for ISIS ?
DeleteYou may be the most ignorant nasty arse person I have ever seen on this site.
Please go away , sod off royally and go jump into a vat of feces you nasty pillock !
Joe
It is so cringy when you pretend to be british.
DeleteBut I really do hope he dies.
You certainly don't pretend to be a hillbilly, you are one
DeleteCongrats Skeeter !
Joe
It's Blokes like you who serve the purpose of being a daily reminder as to the dangers of interbreeding
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Joe is busy at home talking with his "bunkmate" about how the poor muslims are victims and that islm is all about peace. Joe, i would suggest taking in some syrian immigrants and opening your life to them. Remember to be caring and open minded to the heathen habbits. Praise the muslims joe, they are all about peace!!
DeleteSpeaking of which, i see another attack today in France in the name of the religion of peace. Feel the peace Joergy. Feel it
DeleteHEY 2:11. Ide rather he(Joe) gets "CAPTURED" by the ISLAMIC scum.Then I want to see Joe get BUTTFUCKED IN THE ASSHOLE BY 70 BIGBLACK VIRGIN FAGGOTS!!
DeleteWell, SOMEBODY is lying - LOL!
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Yes, both. Bob gimlin isnt retarded, even when he was younger he could clearly see the costume in person and was friends with patterson. He was in on it.
DeleteOf course, with Johnson, even ikdummy admits he is hoaxing.
As far as it relates to the book, it's inconsequential. Bigfoot doesnt exist. I'm here because i profit from the bigfoot myth and i enjoy mocking the believers. I am one of many that mock them on this blog but ikdummy wants to believe we are all 1 person, then again, he still believes in bigfoot.
My take (right or wrong) is that Gimlin knows it's a hoax but is so caught up in the adoration and camaraderie of the Bigfoot community that he could never bring himself to reveal the truth and disappoint them (or tarnish the memory of his friend Patterson). He's just a nice old guy who wants to please everyone and is willing to entertain just about anything so as to not disappoint.
DeleteNow Johnson I haven't quite figured out. He either is truly psychotic or just a run-of-the-mill conman trying to make money off his interest. I've mentioned before I probably wouldn't like the guy because of his arrogant personality and the way he appears to manipulate others.
I agree Bigfoot doesn't exist but I still wonder why (some) seemingly rational people are convinced they have seen such a thing. There is a mystery there for sure but I believe in falls in the area of psychology.
I agree about Gimlin but i wonder if he'll confess before he dies out of guilt, religious or otherwise.
DeleteI think Johnson realized pretty early that anyone with a higher degree would be bumped up to the top of the credibility scale in the bf community and he'd be able to pad his income with conferences, books, etc... I think at some point he realized the conventional role-play was mindless and creatively limiting and went with portals or whatever he's into because he can shape the narrative in his own direction.
YES YES,I have a sledgehammer and a anvil, I admit defeat,So I invited Al jazeera to document my "TRENDSETTING NON ISLAMIC RACISM,,
DeleteAND SMASH MY (useless cock n balls)PEDO CUCKISM TO MY DOMINATE ISLAMIC MASTERS
Dr Squatch with his chiropractic degree could be huge if he had played it seriously. He started out doing a conference, he didnt work his way up, he started out doing a slideshow of his photos at a bf conf., he was even taken seriously by iktomi initially(not that iktomi is anything outside here), they exchanged emails, then Dr squatch got silly or was always silly, maybe more prolific with odder discoveries and also confrontational amd didnt play ball, a maverick.
Delete"After Patterson’s death in 1972, Gimlin was the only living connection to the footage, which made him the sole target for abuse. Everyone had viewed him as crazy and on numerous occasions cars full of people would head to his family home to patronise him. “They’d come driving in my driveway all times of the night and go ‘Bob! We want to go out Bigfoot hunting’,” he said. It wasn’t long before his wife also started to fall victim the abuse. “My wife was a teller at a savings and loan institution. Of course, she was sitting right there and the public would come in and make smart remarks,” he said. “This went on and on and on until she come home crying. She’d say, ‘I’m not tough enough.’ A couple times we were going to split up over this.” The problem only became worse and Gimlin found himself isolated from the outside world. Recalling a conversation with prominent Canadian Bigfoot researcher John Green, Gimlin admitted to understanding why people had been acting the way they had. “I can understand why they don’t believe in it — because I didn’t believe it either,” he said. “But I saw one. And I know what I saw. And I know it wasn’t a man in a suit. It couldn’t have been.” The constant abuse would take toll on Gimlin who was faced with the conundrum of standing by his footage and being labelled as crazy or staying quiet and having people think the footage was fake. After decades in hiding, Gimlin was roped into attending the 2003 Willow Creek International Bigfoot Symposium and it was here he found what he had been looking for all these years. “It’s not a fairy tale to them. It’s serious business,” he said. “When I met those people down there, they accepted me with what you call open arms.” Feeling comfortable, Gimlin addressed the conference with anecdotes of his encounter with Bigfoot. “There wasn’t a sound in the room while I was talking,” he said. “I thought, ‘I can’t really believe this. This is almost like seeing Bigfoot.’ God, I felt like I was 10 feet tall.”
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To me, embracing a community of people who have had similar experiences is very, very natural. Try and detach yourself from your pathological denial, just for a second, and put yourself in the shoes of a Gimlin who isn't lying... he's seen a "Bigfoot", has been ridiculed and alienated and refuses to refrain from being honest. You would not naturally turn to a community of people with the same experiences to not only come to terms, but to make sense of such experiences? At what point would you endure that type of ridicule and a potential divorce, when you could quite easily come out and state that it was all a "clever hoax", and laugh it off... And get hired by Hollywood for making the gorilla costume of the century?? I mean... Some people would even forgive him for lying and stating that it was a hoax anyway, based on the way he was alienated for decades? Not to mention... Bob Gimlin lost a court case with Roger Patterson's wife, why wouldn't he bitterly "reveal all on the hoax" if he wasn't earning from the footage?? "If it would have turned around and came towards us, yes I would have shot it." Tell me, would you hoax someone, knowing they had a loaded weapon pointed the "man in a suit"? To bag a hominin would have set the Patterson & Gimlin families up for generations and generations. Who would agree to getting into a monkey suit knowing that fact & knowing there's a loaded weapon gonna be pointed at you? That's not to mention the $1M a documentary production crew offered Gimlin to "reveal all". For however long certain people might wanna drag out this soap opera between Johnson & Gimlin because they can't find a magic monkey suit, is irrelevant. Bob Gimlin didn't put a foreword in Johnson's book, and Bob Gimlin purposefully skipped his conference. End of. There is no affiliation other than what Johnson wishes might have been. In your own words Mr Curious, Johnson is forceful, a liar and a manipulative person, and Bob Gimlin is a "nice old guy who wants to please everyone". There in lies a reasonable explanation for his latest video. Personally, I find it fascinating that someone should label another a "psychotic con-man", only to then believe that same psychotic con-man when he's providing a means to denounce the credibility of someone that needs to be shown to be a psychotic con-man, in Gimlin. Therein lies a genuinely intriguing insight into the psychology of someone who needs "Bigfoot" to not be real, no matter the contradictions & lapses in logic.
DeleteAnd as for the innumerable sightings reports, much of which account for instances where multiple people have seen these hominins at the same time... Well one merely need to draw upon the way in which Gimlin was treated by his community, as to how little people have to gain from such experiences. One need only check out John Green's database to see how many professional people have reported these hominins, with careers potentially being flushed down the toilet for coming forward.
9:16, I'm not taken seriously by people who don't field research, it's as simple as that.
Deleteikdummy inadvertently hit the nail on the head by repeatedly underscoring the psychological need for bigfoot to be real, even over money.
DeleteIkdummy, your reasoning is weak. P/G etc... were all in on it, no one was going to actually shoot heironomous.
ikdummy doesnt approve of Johnsons role play but he does approve of P/G. By his own reasoning he should detach himself from his pathological denial of Johnson's narrative.
Nargh!
DeleteIf I was all that needy of "Bigfoot" existing, I'd be spending every day of my life, rampantly stalking people on other blogs catered for the antithesis of this blog. And in regards to Bob turning down money, your six year failed argument of "needing advocates of the subject to be making money at all costs", exposes that as just one drawn out sad contradiction on your part. But we all know you've never been in the habit of being accountable for your face falls.
My reasoning regarding Bob Gimlin isn't even your biggest obstacle. For example, I can invest full faith in Bob G's account, because the exact same physical evidence for Patty has been found to exist on another continent, decades after the fact.
I have no reason to believe someone like Doc Johnson, because he has no physical evidence for his numerous "encounters" & "habituation". There is nothing to deny, because there is nothing to first take note of other than pretty far out stories.
10000 10 foot tall hairy men will continue to play hide and seek and ikdummy will continue to believe.
DeleteThanks for believing me about the money Iktomi, it's just my word of course but I'm not a liar, I saw a giant hairy woman, seven feet tall according to you since you can measure from a frame of film and a tree you've never seen, yep, all true
DeleteSorry Stuart, but attributing numbers to a hominin that you pathologically deny exists, isn't very good logic. And they can't be all that good at hide & seek... Because there is physical evidence of them.
DeleteYes Iktomi, thanks for being my friend and agreeing with all the fantastical crap that pours from my mouth while trying to distance yourself from Dr Johnson, halitosis, halitosis
DeleteYou're so predictable with your little tantrums. Hard to believe there's a grown man somewhere publishing comments like that.
DeleteOh and Stuey? Just to recap of what just happened... You got owned.
Ta taaa!!
That's right Iktomi, footprints in sand and mud and blurry pictures, that's what gets folks ridiculed because it doesn't really stand up as evidence, thanks for backing me up on that
DeleteYes Iktomi, you are always the winner, everyone else is a loser, they need mental help, not you, not you, ask Heavenly Father
DeleteKeep fighting for us iktomi.
DeleteI wish I was like Iktomi, khat.I could just prattle on about Bigfoot and win just by saying "I win", and I could point at footprints in sand an mud and call it conCrete evidence, an I could talk about mystical Bigfoot stuff with you an be agreeing with everything you say and still call Johnson crazy, his check ain't crazy, I cashed it
DeleteSorry Stuart, but footprints in sand and mud is what field biologists have studied for decades. And nothing blurry about this;
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You should be wishing me dead around about now?
That monkey suit sure got you mesmerized , I reckon I should cut you a check for a psychological exam, you could see Johnson
DeleteSMH.
Delete"When we talk about the Sasquatch as just another North American mammal, you know I always think of my work doing wildlife surveys, & especially mammal surveys, where we are able to determine the presence of a mammal in an area on the basis of its tracks. Mammals are not like birds, they're not so easily seen. They're elusive, they're often nocturnal so we look for sign. We look for tracks, we look for scat, we look for feeding sign. On the basis of bear tracks we say, "yes there are black bears in this area or grizzly bears", and this is [in my opinion] the same with the Sasquatch."
Delete- John Bindernagle, PhD
It pretty much puts things in perspective, when someone who argues against the existence of "Bigfoot", every day of his life, doesn't even know that track impressions are fundamental to field biology. But you did think bears ran wild in the UK until it was pointed out. A little word of advice... OCD and the habit disorders it invokes, is essentially an anxiety disorder, and only results in more anxiety the more you seek your habits out. Even more irony is that no moderation around here means you don't get banned, have some time to calm down, meaning no let up on the increasing impact on your emotional problems.
... Have a break Stue.
That's right Iktomi, ain't nobody ever seen a bear but thanks to poop and tracks we know them wiley bear are hiding out there, I don't know much about Bindernagle except that I wouldn't be retarded enough to quote him to try and win an argument, did you know Johnson has a big shiny turd in a box? I guess now we can take him at his word about the Xanue, he has track casting too so it must be so, glad I wrote that forward in his book. You should quote him in your next argument instead of Bindernagle, see how this is working so good for you, you're winning now, looking all sane
DeleteYes, shiny turds are great evidence, it's really spruce poop if you think about it, spruce poop is proof of Bigfoot
DeleteYour drivel would hold weight... If there wasn't three databases of reports, that attest to plenty of people seeing "Bigfoot". And John Bindernagle was a former advisor for the UN. I really don't think that someone who doesn't know how to spell the word "cheque" properly should be calling out his professional integrity.
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(Christ on a bike... It really hits home sometimes the calibre of idiot I'm exchanging with.)
DeleteI know how you feel Iktomi but you can't help yourself, I guess I'm partially to blame with the whole monkey suit film so I apologize, dome people have trouble separating fact from fantasy an I shouldn't be spoon feeding those type of folks crapola , you go get yourself liquored up now, that self medicating should help somewhat
DeleteHa, you limeys an your bastardized words, cheque, you sure you ain't French an wearing a tutu, you sure make me laugh, keep the faith, UN makes things believable now, you sure make me laugh
DeleteA psy-ops experiment from a US airforce base out to attack you, perpetrated by enthusiasts on this very blog.
DeleteA thousands year old, culture hopping hoaxing conspiracy threory.
"dome people have trouble separating fact from fantasy.."
Wow... Just wow.
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DeleteTo bad joe was not killed again. I really hope he is one day. A livestream of his beheading would be great fun.
Also the beating and **** of chick would be enjoyable. I bet that could make some money on pay-per-view.
But I really want to see joe die in the most painful,humiliating way possible. To bad he is a coward who will never leave his home.
Oh dear Stuart... Do you honestly believe anyone around here is gonna believe you when you say you're laughing?
Halitosis, halitosis
DeleteI don't know why you said that Iktomi, I thought that Joe fellow was a friend of yours, I can see your upset at the fact that by your own words my shiny turd and track casting is indeed proof of Bigfoot, furthermore if that is so, and it is by your own admission, this means that i am also correct about portals and orbs and Xanue, I don't know why you say bad things about me and kiss the butt of Khat, no wonder you're so angry, it is my professional opinion that you need to seek help, remember i have a PHD so everything I say is fact,again your words
DeleteUnfortunately, there is no way of scientifically testing the paranormal, so there is no way of testing said claims for authenticity. But I am talking about someone who once tried applying Occam's Razor to the paranormal, after all.
DeleteHa, don't go getting upset Iktomi and pulling a spell check on everyone when you lose an argument because of things you said, just cause Johnson and Me make money off of things like Bigfoot is no reason to be a hater, it's enthusiasm like yours that helps us to thrive, guys like you made guys like us, you should be proud
DeleteWhere is your star, is it far, is it far, is it far, when do we leave, I believe, I believe , I believe
DeleteIkdummy is so limited. Occam, morph, circular, dermal ... same thing over and over....
Deletei try to answer as sparingly as possible to keep "him" going.
Thank you for admitting I'm right, there's no way to NOT prove what I said in my book, and remember, I have witnesses, and I know you base a lot of your belief in Bigfoot on the testimony of witnesses, mmmm the kool aid is sweet and cool,drink with me Iktomi
DeleteLose an argument? Stuart... People have the capacity to read. And in fact, the onus is on you to substantiate this "role playing, money making scam art" of yours. If you didn't already notice, I pretty much blew you out of the water referencing physical evidence for Patty.
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In this paper published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 30, No. 3, pp. 356–374, 2016... You'll notice that Jeff analyses the exact same foot morphology from the cast made at Bluff Creeek in 1967, to that of one sourced in China, essentially providing irrefutable proof that the track impressions are of the same biped.
Now your turn... Let's see evidence of this role playing, money making scam art.
Buy my book....gotcha, your welcome
DeleteHo,ho...Forward by none other than yours truly
Delete"Now your turn... Let's see evidence of this role playing, money making scam art"
DeleteFinding Bigfoot
Million Dollar Bigfoot Video
Every Bigfoot Movie
Every Bigfoot Video
Every Bigfoot Book
Every Bigfoot paid Speaker
All Bigfoot memorabilia
All Bigfoot tours, camping etc...
Too easy, ikdummy
Cool! Now show me that "Bigfoot" is bunk so the proponents of such are role playing, money making scam artists. The last six years of your obsession haven't proven to be too easy in regard to this.
DeleteWho's making serious money from "Bigfoot" Stuart? Yeah, you've got people who write books, yeah you've got scientists charging money for lectures, yeah you've got people who make YouTube channels, but are they able to quit their day jobs? Bigfoot is free to put in your product. It's like anything that's free and in pop culture. Lions are free, tigers are free, bears a free. You don't have to pay anyone to use them. And with pop culture, naturally comes a demand for such things.
So to reiterate who's making serious money from this "role playing scam art"? Meldrum can't quit his day job, and the money for more research isn't coming from anywhere else. Why aren't YOU making money from "Bigfoot"? Surely if it's that easy, why aren't you raking in the dollars?
Ummm, me ,Bigfoot is my day job
Delete"Today, Bobo makes a living as a commercial fisherman out of Eureka, California. He continues to take odd jobs in unrelated fields, most of which are centered on trying to spot a Bigfoot. His close relationship with the community in which he lives helps him keep his "ear to the ground," and he collects dozens of local Bigfoot sighting reports each year."
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That's one of the most likely people out of your dream list (as well as the others of the "Finding Bigfoot Team"), to be able to quit their day jobs due to TV series'... And guess what?
So who's making money, Stuart?
Are you just retarded? Just not going to acknowledge me because I prove you wrong, you stupid enough to think no one on my show made money? You really must have that head of yours shoved far up where the sun don't shine.Americans make money off of things like Bigfoot, grow up you big baby
DeleteCool!
DeleteLet's just say that Matt Moneymaker is indeed able to quit his day job... Who else is making money from "Bigfoot", Stuey? Certainly not the rest of the Finding Bigfoot team. Who else? I mean... This is something you've asserted for six years. Surely you know what you're talking about.
Right?
Ho,ho...IKTOMI it's okay, we're all getting cash, that don't make Bigfoot any less Holy, Johnson doesn't have a license to practice but he don't need to work on account of he's we'll hung and sells books and cups an sweatshirts to his cult, you'll see me at all the Bigfoot festivals selling books an trinkets an autographs , you think I'm going cause I love Bigfoot, I love your faith, you keep that spigot open, you and the others, you think you're the only fanatic out there?
DeleteThanks again for admitting your wrong, I make a LOT of money from Bigfoot
DeleteHmmmm... Indeed. Anyway, how about answering the question?
DeleteDo you think I'd be making coffee cups and sweatshirts if they didn't sell? I wrote 444 pages of lunatic ramblings, vomit on paper, in just 4 weeks. Guess what, it's selling, the Bigfoot tent is huge, you can say anything you want and people believe, they want to believe. Who are we to break their hearts? Magic space Bigfoot, monster cannibal Bigfoot, human relic tribe, giant monkey, come on man, Dyer made one out of foam and people paid to see it
DeleteIktomi is trying to make the point that the psychological need for imaginary creatures is more important than the financial one.
DeleteSo, iktomi is more noble, in his mind, because he's less creative and an inferior businessman.
How about listening to the answers?you've been proven wrong
DeleteDid you guys know that Fool Smeja is making money off of Bigfoot just telling people he shot 2 of them, that's all he got is a story and people pay to go out in the woods with him, I had to make a damn movie and he just reels them in with a story
DeleteHey guys, I lost money on Bigfoot, that whole wookie mask thing really bit me in the ass, I guess the Bigfoot tent isn't big enough for that garbage, and of course Melba didn't help, the only ones who believe her are Carpenter and Lindsay, yep, really lost on that one
DeleteNo money made here. Nope.
DeleteStue... I have referenced evidence in this very comment that wouldn't be the case if these creatures were imaginary, that you haven't challenged yet.
DeleteGreat! How much money as Smeja made from "Bigfoot", and what's the evidence for him being a hoaxer?
Stuey... Do you mean to tell me that you've been asserting this role playing scam art for six years, and you haven't one person other than Matt Moneymaker who's fits that alleged model?
ikdummy must not read the responses.
DeleteGlad to see you finally admit people make money off of Bigfoot, I'm sorry my steak tested as bear, I swear it's delicious Bigfoot, you're right Iktomi, Bigfoot is real, no one's proved me wrong
DeleteStuey... You have one more chance, it's not looking good.
DeleteLucky nobody comes here anymore to see you look like an idiot as usual.
No one's ever proved me wrong
Deleteikdummy is trolling now. I think he's flipped. He's no longer a believer, just messing with people like DS.
Delete"and what's the evidence for him(Smeja) being a hoaxer?" ~ikdummy quote
remember, ikdummy used to be email buddies with DS.
No one's ever proved me wrong
DeleteNo one's ever proved me wrong
DeleteI'm constantly proven wrong
DeleteEveryone email me at my personal email
DeleteDude, you're creeping me out...big hairy hugs
DeleteOh dear.
DeleteSix years of assertions, not a six fart's worth of substance to back it all up. Crack on with the fake Iktomi accounts Stuey, I guess you've always got that to fall back on, ha ha ha ha!!
Laters!
You're the bell of the ball iktomi.
DeleteAnd I'm always late to the ball.
DeleteTwo points I would like to interject in this interesting (and funny) exchange. As the story goes documentary filmmaker Doug Hajicek was working on a television show called Mysterious Encounters and while talking to Bob Gimlin for one of the episodes, happened to called the show’s producers. When he mentioned he was sitting with Gimlin, the producers told him to offer Gimlin $1 million to tell how he and Patterson faked the footage to which Gimlin declined. Does anyone know if that offer was ever PUBLICLY announced? I know I would never confess anything based on a TELEPHONE offer of a million dollars. Has there EVER been an official offer made for that kind of money for a confession? I know I would be much more impressed if an official document promising a million or more for a confession was publicly made and he refused. Actually he would be crazy if he did refuse - I mean jeez - a million dollars! Of course if he did most would just say he was bought out. Never-the-less it would be an interesting test. Anyone have a million dollars they can spare?
"In this paper published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 30, No. 3, pp. 356–374, 2016... You'll notice that Jeff analyses the EXACT SAME FOOT morphology from the cast made at Bluff Creeek in 1967, to that of one sourced in China, essentially providing irrefutable proof that the track impressions are of the same biped."
I find it a little odd that it would be the SAME exact foot morphology from a different continent with no variations but hey that's just me.
"Gimlin’s version of what happened that day, though, has never changed. And he has had plenty of incentive to change it. Documentary filmmaker Doug Hajicek was working on a television show called ‘Mysterious Encounters’ more than a decade ago when, while talking to Bob Gimlin for one of the episodes, happened to called the show’s producers. When he mentioned he was sitting with Gimlin, Hajicek said, the producers told him to offer Gimlin $1 million to tell how he and Patterson faked the footage. “It was instant. He didn’t even have to think about it,” Hajicek said. “I wasn’t floored by it. I’d gotten to know Bob and he’s just such a man of character. He doesn’t lie. “He said, ‘Well, that’s nice, and I’d like to take your money, but this is what happened: We came around this bend ...’”
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To me, a species/sub-species of human would have the same anatomical features just like we do across continents.
I'll be back tomorrow.
Iktomi on a bike,, Joe is dense.
DeleteSome additional thoughts before I lose them - LOL.
DeleteI have no problem with anyone making money off of their belief in Bigfoot. If there are buyers then more power to you. I seriously doubt the average Bigfoot enthusiast is getting rich off their belief but in some cases probably do earn enough to make it fairly profitable. Of course those who make the low budget movies and especially those at the high end of the Finding Bigfoot series do make a pretty good income off of it (especially after a run of 9 seasons).
My scorn and ridicule is directed at the segment of the Bigfoot community called "habituators" who claim to have an established relationship with Bigfoot and see them on a regular basis. Maybe it's because I'm sick of working hard all my life but with untold riches at their doorstep why would anyone not use every method to to document or capture one? I know if I knew of an area where I seen them on a regular basis I would stop at nothing to capture one and reap the rewards that would come with it. No - I would never shoot at a humanoid figure and take the chance it was not some damn fool in a costume so shooting to harm is out. I don't care how intelligent it is said to be there is no smarter animal on the planet than a greedy human with the promise of great wealth. They will always find a way - LOL.
I see above someone is using Khat Hansen's name. I remember awhile back she made the statement about knowing some tribe that had some Bigfoot skulls in their possession. When I pressed her about more information she got all indignant and huffy about it. The usual response when someone can't back up what they claim.
The Bigfoot community certainly has some interesting characters!
Curious, the need for bigfoot is mostly psychological but the people that work the hardest at keeping the myth alive are profiting from it, to whatever modest degree. There is a whole political structure to it just like the entertainment industry or Washington, even though bigfoot is inconsequential fantasy. Gimlin is kind of propped up, a figurehead, but Johnson is interesting because he made his way in to the conferences, became part of the establishment, and then took things in a direction that the bigfoot "elite" find too fantastic, even though everything bigfoot has always been nothing but fantasy.
DeleteI'm embarrassed to admit that I find Matthew Johnson and his "Great Reveal" saga fascinating to watch. What he proposes is so completely bizarre but yet there are those who seem to buy into it as feasible. I'm not even sure there is anyone on this site that endorses it and there are some pretty far out ideas here as well.
DeleteMr. Johnson comes across as a cult leader to me demanding absolute belief in what he puts forth and immediately defensive when he feels he is being challenged or questioned. Personally I think he has hit his high tide and will slowly recede from the Bigfoot community as more and more of the Bigfoot "elite" as you say, chastise him and followers fall away. He may come up with even more outrageous claims to gain attention but I think the Bigfoot community will move on.
If your going to explain how Bigfoot could exist at least try to ground it in feasible possibilities and make it challenging - LOL.
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DeleteAnd as for habituators... Most from the enthusiast camp are left frustrated with this. Usually due to their experiences falling in and around the realm of the paranormal, which usually comes across as a convenient excuse. Habituators usually get the most flack from their on community, purely because you have to be deeply into the subject to be aware of their movements, and the same people generally don't have a tolerance for what falls outside of the stigma that's been perpetuated by the likes of the BFRO.
DeleteTo me, there is no question "Bigfoot" exists because of the repeatable evidence for it. And if it exists it MUST have very advanced sensory attributes, as well as being fundamentally reliant on social groups. Even if Native Americans, many researchers & I are totally wrong about this and how well "Bigfoot" evade, meaning we can't theorise as to how they evade things like trail cameras... "Bigfoot" STILL exists based on the repeatable evidence it leaves across continents. If they don't have serious sensory attributes, it means there must be a more extraordinary reason outside of any known ability that both non-human and human-primates have for them evading classification & trail cameras, which delves into the realm of the preternatural and far less logical. The theory that they evade trail cameras so well for example, is warranted due to the evidence for their existence not being a question. It is therefore logical to draw from attributes that we know both non-human and human-primates have, to explain how this might be achieved. But that doesn't necessary mean that they're paranormal.
Curious... Researchers do not get money from anywhere to fund research. If someone wants to make a crack at this full time, and it NEEDS to be full time like any consorted professional field biological study, then they need some sort of income to be able to do that and put some food on the table, resources for further research, etc. What's more, is people want to learn about the subject. If you're a city slicker and want to see areas where sightings reports occur, then to me, people are at liberty to seek out educational excursions. Nobody who researches "Bigfoot" is out there making Horror movies, and if people take the time to write books, then so they SHOULD make money. That's how ideas and research evolves, by reading books. Production companies, toy companies, etc, don't have to pay anyone to use that in their product. And with pop culture, naturally comes a demand for such things. And with the exception of things like t-shirts & cast replicas that NEED to be sold to make money for further research, none of whom who sell these at conventions are associated with 99% the products that can be listed by the demand in modern pop culture. None are being manufactured by the ACTUAL PROPONENTS who are attempting to broaden the credibility of this subject. Nobody who researches "Bigfoot" is out there making toys, coffee or driving Bigfoot adorned cabs (which would indicate a full time working class working predicament), and if people take the time to write books, then so they SHOULD make money. That's how ideas and research evolves, by reading books.
DeleteNone of this is at the detriment of the proponents' integrity if "Bigfoot" exists... Which is something the obsessed can only wish was achievable.
As Stuart helped prove me correct, there are no Bigfoot millionaires. With the exception of Matt Moneymaker, who might have been able to make all his success work because all his family are very wealthy anyway... Examples of how proponents can't give up their day jobs are no more prevelant in Bobo Faye and Jeff Meldrum. Two proponents known to most who adhere to the pop culture of this subhect, and two people who are likely to earn the most out of everyone else involved in the subject, and they can't give up their day jobs.
Ikdummy starts with repeatable evidence bs then goes off on a ridiculous tangent about millionaires etc..missing the point.Bigfoot is interesting and marketable because enough idiots think it's real. Ikdummy decided to focus on the money aspect of bigfoot because he'll never deal with his psychological need for bigfoot.
DeleteIkdummys initial repeatable evidence premise is off but it allows him to make ridiculous assumptions and hypothesis guided by his faulty yet never wavering premise.
Deletehttp://www2.isu.edu/rhi/pdf/JSE-303-Meldrum.pdf
DeleteAs was posted up top... In the following paper published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 30, No. 3, pp. 356–374, 2016... You'll notice that Jeff analyses the exact same foot morphology from the cast made at Bluff Creeek in 1967, to that of one sourced in China, essentially providing irrefutable proof that the track impressions are of the same biped. That was published up top. It didn't go addressed. Someone who thought bears run wild in the UK, and who didn't know track impressions are fundamental to wildlife biology, isn't qualified to call that ridiculous and expect it to stick. As was also published up top... If I needed "Bigfoot" to exist due to psychological reasons, I'd be spending every day of my life, rampantly stalking people on other blogs catered for the antithesis of this blog. And only one of us has REAL psychologists writing about our behaviour.
Where are the Bigfoot millionaires? Six years of this and you have Matt Moneymaker as a list.
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Jeff was wrong. Publishing an opinion isn't a new species.
DeleteStraw man argument, profiting doesn't mean millionaire.
Skip over your psychological bigfoot needs?
6 years, wrong guy, but are you ever right?
You are seriously retarded, everyone on finding Bigfoot made a ton of money, what backwards country are you from because you clearly have no clue of capitalism
DeleteLook we can clearly ignore this guy because he's either a totally uptight pick or a gibbering retard who absolutely refuses to see the truth, either way such a person is a mental case and should be ignored
DeleteIkdummy's from wales and is pro EU. He wants his country controlled by Brussels.
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DeleteNargh! YOU are wrong, Stuey;
Delete"The casts form the basis of the ichnotaxon Anthropoidipes ameriborealis (Meldrum 2007), namely the “North American ape foot.” Ichnotaxonomy is a Linnaean system of classifying tracks and traces generally of as-yet-unknown extinct animals. In this instance, the living trackmaker is unknown, i.e. unrecognized or unacknowledged, but not extinct. The nomen applies to the tracks, not the trackmaker, and a description and diagnosis establishes the distinctions of these tracks from those of other species (Meldrum 2007)."
... Jeff doesn't claim to classify a new species, because for that you would need a body. He's just classifying the ichnotaxon. This is like... The third time this has been pointed out to you, ya daft prat. The physical evidence referenced in that paper is irrefutable. If you don't like it, prove him wrong or cry yourself back to sleep. And if you didn't notice, that's a journal, so it's not just his academic opinion.
Profiting means financially benefitting in any way from a certain endeavour. I listed numerous honest reasons in my comments up top; ALL of which have not gone addressed. None of that is at the detriment of the proponents' integrity if "Bigfoot" exists... Which is something your sad obsessed self can only wish was achievable.
And no Nicky, I've gone over the past six years of these comment sections and you've been flogging the same dead horse for AAAAAALL this time. Maybe a little fact checking would have been a good start?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists%3Famp
You listed NOTHING honest and you've failed to prove that people are not profiting from Bigfoot, so it's clear to everyone who has been flogging a dead horse. ..buy my wonderful Bigfoot evidence book. .50 years come full circle, you may cut and paste from it if you like Iktomi, especially the forward from your hero Bob Gimlin, you seem to think you know a lot about Bigfoot but it's clear to me you're scared of a world you can't imagine, I can help you, thanks also for all the kind comments you made on my Facebook page
DeleteHo, hope you know that I got a nice check for that forward, thanks Dr Johnson, you know a man can't live off big hairy hugs an shiny giant turds
DeleteNaargh? Stop crying like a woman Iktomi, why didn't you defend me against Curious?
DeleteTodd Standing is making money from Bigfoot, you know this Iktomi, I want a pension so I stayed in my teaching gig but when I retire I'm going to cash in, sorry if that offends you so much
DeleteStuart, two proponents known to most who adhere to the pop culture of this subject, two people who are likely to earn the most out of everyone else involved in Meldrum and Bob Faye, can't give up their day jobs.
DeleteUtterly destroyed like the little pansy you are.
See ya around.
Ummmm, yeah we can, you really know nothing but assume an awful lot, we know in Europe you have to work till your alcoholic liver ceases to function but here in America things are a lot different
DeleteTwo proponents known to most who...?? Retard
DeleteNaargh, Naargh, Naargh, Naargh
DeleteTalking to yourself again Iktomi? You never have evidence to back up what you say
DeleteI'm still waiting for you to prove that Bob Gimlin or Matt Moneymaker have made one pound from bigfoot.
ReplyDeletepersonal private email me or you're cowards.
DeleteActually it's on you to prove no one has profited from Bigfoot, come on, put all your evidence out there to prove everyone wrong, or are you a coward? Show us
DeleteProfit-making money, your words smart guy, prove no profit
DeleteHa, Iktomi the site administration is calling you out, seriously, I've made a ton of scratch off of Bigfoot, stop being ignorant
DeleteInteresting bit of professional doctoring here, have you guys noticed that when Iktomi gets all worked up he forgets to chime in as his alter egos?
ReplyDeleteikdummy has so many sock puppets "he" assumes we are all one person as well.
DeleteGirl was hot. Not dressed for fishing or mosquito's.
ReplyDeleteAnother fake.
Besides, the phone would have memory, so the owners could be identified. If the vid survived so did the contact list.