Thursday, April 6, 2017

Is This The Mask That Was Used To Fake Patty?


Dr. Jeff Meldrum posted the following on his facebook page. Take a look and leave a comment about what you think.

Someone just informed me that the P-G film was fake and offered the Topstone Caveman mask as the linchpin to his conclusion. It seems this mask was a popular item in the 50's, with a movie appearance in 1958 in 'Frankenstein's Daughter." This was news to me, so I found the mask pictured on-line...what do you think?




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    1. The nose and lips do look like those on Patty.

      The thin lips look a lot like the lips on Patty.

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    2. What a load of rubbish,looks nothing like her.In fact i'm sure she would feel rather insulted xx

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    3. At LAST here is evidence of the HOAX perpetrated by two scammers..I`ll wager there are many people trying to defend the Pratty video at all cost but this has finally put a nail in a rather shoddily made bigfoot coffin.

      hah aha hah aha

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    4. No hoax..just small-minded brain dead trolls who can't accept the TRUTH and who do NOT have the intellectual capacity, nor ANY innate intelligence to THINK outside the box. Mask is a joke..lmao. Muscle movement & Thigh hernia are real...GFY Trolls!!

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    5. ^ You have not one shred of proof that "Pratty" is real.

      The guy who supposedly filmed it was a known hoaxer. And you expect he suddenly came across a bigfoot ? A creature we`re told can sense danger etc ?

      Do me a favor and use your brain.

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    6. Um... Nope. There is in fact, not one shred of proof that the guy who filmed Patty is a hoaxer. At best, you have circular reasoning, and you don't really have to be a clever person to apply that.

      Sasq'ets are sentient, can of course sense danger, but are just as susceptible to mistakes. If you knew but a fool's guide level of the manner in which these hominids are reported in wilderness areas, they are usually described as the witness leaving in one direction and the Sasq'ets leaving in the other. Patty follows a course of action that is consistently documented too many times to count.

      Patty is likely real, because she has apparent biological tissue that can be successfully compared with that of elderly people. Something far beyond any technological achievements of the time and even many, many years later with SFX methods.

      One minute Roger Patterson is a broke, thick yokel trying to make a buck, who can't afford to pay for a camera, AND who can't get his timeline in order... The next he's a genius that defies almost 50 years of the most modern and expensive SFX for cloth methods. Hmmmm... It doesn't appear that you should be suggesting anyone else isn't using their brain.

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    7. A rubber caveman mask covered in horsehair, genius enough to fool you

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    8. It doesn't remotely fit in the comparison. The ironic thing here is, people like you allege witnesses "see things that aren't really there."

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    9. I USE my brain...trolls don't. YOU have ZERO proof that it's a hoax. Go away mental midget..poor sheep...baaahhhh!!

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    10. Actually it fits quite well so really you can't prove that it's real and the only thing holding up your house of Cards is an old man who happens to make a living off of Bigfoot, sad person you are

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    11. Patty is likely real, nice commitment to your argument Iktomi

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    12. "Having sex with a goat is a THRILL"-Joe Fitsgerald

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    13. Go away pizza moloch lover,^
      aka,Joe Fitsgerald,Iktomi,vegasthedog,abholi,ect....

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  2. By God.

    It could be...look at the nose shape...also look at the lips.

    Not totalt proof but it can be seen that under the right circumstances it would create the features almost perfectly...wouldn`t it ?

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    1. did you have a double hot toddy this morning ?
      Obviously you need new glasses mate

      Joe

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    2. Wishful thinking will get you nowhere - take a good and proper look...the nose is virtually the exact shape and the lips are also much the same.

      Now fuck off to wherever you`ve been hiding for the past week.

      You idiot.

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    3. Aww c'mon mate. You gotta be insane to think that . it looks nothing like it
      Thanks for the compliment bro, maybe you should cut down on your glue sniffing, it's making you quite antisocial

      Joe

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  3. absolute bloody rubbish ! Bollocks ! pond drudge !
    Go play in a sewage drain if you really think that mask was used in the PGF because your just a no good sot and you need to put that bottle of moonshine down lad.
    If anyone would like to try and recreate the PGF bigfoot using that mask go ahead but I tell ya one thing mates, you'll be wasting your bloody time
    Cheers

    Joe

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    1. shouldn't you be riding your sybian right about now fella ?

      Joe

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    2. Now all we need to see is the suit

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    4. Gay troll triggered again

      Like a bltch

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    2. Did your friend ask Dr Meldrum if Dr Squatch could have his pubes back? :) xx

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    3. What do you think of you Douchebag buddy Meldrum now Iktomi/PIB?
      I told you he was a TOTAL IDIOT!
      WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD POST SUCH A STUPID MASK!

      So now you look stupid Iktomi, and you have to make a Pube comment...LOL

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    4. Doc is still angry at his imaginary pubes he claims he gave to Meldrum, bwahaha
      that mask kinda looks like Doc don't ya think ? I think it's a splitting image of you doc
      Meldrum rulez, doc droolz

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    5. well then if that is true then I challenge you to get them on film stating their names saying that they indeed witnessed you giving it to him.
      post it on here
      if you do that I'll believe you . if you don't then you shall forever be known as the BS doctor and we will never let you forget about it
      We are waiting for you, step on it mack
      who's Iktomi ?

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    6. If Iktomi and PIB are one and the same,"I MMC WILL EAT DOG SHlT"! and post it on U tube for all to see!

      MMC

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  6. Just ask Bob Gimlin. He will know.

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  7. Looks more like a blurry T Standings still frame to be honest.... just might...be?

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  8. https://goo.gl/images/R406bv
    It was this guy.

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  9. ITS Bababooeey from Howard Stern show!!!!!

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  10. Wow! This caveman mask available years before the Patterson film WAS the bottom layer of the "Patty" face, and then fake fur was put over it. The similarities are just too striking for it not to be this mask that was used as part of a bigfoot costume.

    All that's left now is for Bob Gimlin to confess.

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    1. When you blow up the image of "Patty" one can read almost anything into it because of the distortion. Although there are certainly similarities the one thing that puts doubt into my mind is the caveman mask has a very prominent mouth opening and I see no signs of that on "Patty". I suppose it might be possible to alter this depending on the mask material but it's not an open and shut case. It just is too blurry to make an exact determination.

      I agree with those who say Bob Gimlin is the key. He is probably the most highly regarded individual in the Bigfoot community and his word is considered gospel. I had always considered him a likeable and seemingly rational person but two things have lead me to reconsider that opinion. There is a video of him sitting with Tom Cantrall nodding his head in agreement with some of the outlandish statements made by Tom and he seems to be friends with Matthew Johnson and apparently has written a foreward for his upcoming book. I consider these guys two of the craziest people out there in the Bigfoot community and for him to have such a friendly association with them makes me wonder about his statements. How does that saying go . . . you run with dogs you get fleas.

      I've noticed while reading the past comments that lktomi seems to be noticeably absent. I've seen nothing in the past comments to explain it. I could always count on seeing numerous comments by him defending the existence of Bigfoot (most of which I disagreed with). Did I miss something?

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    2. You're more than likely another Iktomi account. You, much like iktomi, don't recognize true research. Iktomi hasn't gone anywhere.

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    3. Your an interesting guy Doc. Was it actually you or one of the fake accounts using your name that said Sasquatch will never be found?
      If so then I agree with you.

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    4. I said a Body will never be presented.

      If you're so curious about Bigfoot, why haven't you been on my channel, commenting, learning..?

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    5. I'm more curious about you and other researchers actually. I have seen many of your videos - you are certainly prolific. Almost all are of images which could be interpreted as Bigfoot . . . or shadows . . . or vegetation . . or - well, you get the idea. I would be much more impressed if with all this contact if you could obtain some biological evidence. You said you sent hairs to Meldrum - surely with all the contact you've made you could find a few more or even fecal matter to prove your case. That is the objective isn't it? To prove Bigfoot exists and that you are the greatest researcher?

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    6. I have so much hair its not even funny! Its $6000 to test, and comes back "unknown species" it is a waste if money. Scat has to be tested within 6-8 hrs after the actual defecation, and that is not only impossible, but will also come back unknown, just what stomach contents there were.
      My pics are nothing but 100% real!

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    7. Yes, of course they are real to you but if as you have, posted hundreds of pictures and they have convinced no one then what have you achieved? You appear to be able to see them all the time - why not get a close-up video of them moving around or use game camera to capture close-ups of them?

      I understand the expense but if I truly believed they existed and had access to them then I would spare nothing to get evidence because in the end I would be a very rich, famous man if I could prove it.

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    8. Hey Curious! I've been really busy lately and I only have time to check over the comment sections every now & then. I totally agree with your comment regarding the mask. Also, if you look at the protrusion of the mask's lip area and the position of the nose, they're really nothing alike. I'm sure I've seen this mask being presented as a possible explanation in the past, and it didn't make much of a stir with the sceptics. Mask materials & examples from the time have never been in question, it's the manner in which the "mask" of the subject sits on the body & in harmony with the rest of its body proportions.

      DS... You appear to be as obsessed about me as the site's psycho troll. Are you sure you're not one and the same? Leave it go bro, it's unhealthy thinking about me 24/7.

      Peace!!

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    9. You leave and all your characters do too...pretty funny.

      Curious I've convinced everyone! You would have to be in total denial not to say I have overwhelming proof!
      You cannot get a closecup of them moving...I have them blinking, but they know people are there long before you get close to them.

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    10. I thought you were having fun at the plastic dildo convention with Joe and Vegas

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    11. You must freeze the stool as soon as you collect it, only pick up warm or steaming stool samples and then run right home and put them in your freezer

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    12. Judging from the comments here you certainly haven't convinced everyone. I've noticed even your fellow believers seem to have their doubts about your "evidence". I guess I don't understand that if you can get so many pictures of them why you cannot get more of them moving. The blinking could be explained by leafs blowing in the wind momentarily over a shadow area which you interpret as Bigfoot. You yourself have stated that Bigfoot blurs your pictures so how can we be sure it actually is a Bigfoot and not a blurry image of vegetation? I think even you must realize you will need more to prove your case by now.

      Hi lktomi. Glad nothing has befallen you (or anyone else here).

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    13. You foolish, I could stand in the forest all week and the Bigfoot would not move, he wouldn't even make a fresh stool sample until I was gone, thats the way bigfoot is, he only appears when no one is around and then he's crystal clear, jeez you're like a freaking child I have to teach you everything

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    14. Sorry the DS troll is here...sometimes he's ok though.

      Curious, I very well know the difference between Pareodalia and these creatures, I literally I have to! I challenge anyone often to prove me wrong. I have over 1,000 pics, and almost 4,000 video's, I take this very seriously.
      As far as convincing people...I have a cop patient that is the absolute worst skeptic...I stopped sending him pus like 2 years ago, he was unbearable! Just recently sent him a few pics. He says "Shadow"....I said "it was broad daylight!"....he said how do you know, where you there? I said " I took the pic!"....he said whereas the video? I said, I have it. Sent him another pic...He says "Monkey in a zoo!"....I said i took that pic too, and also have the video....have not heard back in 2 weeks.
      Hilarious! Monkey in a zoo...major compliment!

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    15. Lol he gave up banging his head against a brick wall xx

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    16. Why are you even here PIB? You contribute nothing to Bigfoot.

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    17. PIB is a Joe alias. Oh, and by the way PIB is posting on youtube as J.A.

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    18. I have so much hair samples PIB, I could even knit new a muff warmer for those cold winter nights

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    19. I've said it before, and i'll say it again, YOU'RE A TOTAL IDIOT PIB!

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  11. If you are ready to believe this, you are ready to believe in bigfoot.

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  12. What an insult to Patty who has probably passed away by now. Anyone who thinks this mask looks like Patty is in desperate need of an eye exam

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    1. ^ Shhhh ... they don`t want you to know that !

      So for the Lordy`s sake don`t spread it around...Iktomi will have a breakdown at the job-club.

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    2. Some of you morons who are posting, "There is absolutely zero evidence of Patty being real" are clueless. I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I will sell you really cheap, just send me the money first. Aside from excellent video footage (especially for the time in question) that have never been disproven, numerous footprints that were cast and analyzed by the world's leading scientist in anatomy, eyewitness testimony, dermal ridging found in the plaster casting, etc. Yep, absolutely no evidence. Much less evidence would put someone in an electric chair for murder, but nope, absolutely none. I will take cash, money orders, or debit cards for your down payment on the property.

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    3. Your right, Bigfoot does exist! He lives in some oceanfront property in Arizona

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  13. Patty has the Classic Bigfoot White Nose...the mask doesn't!
    Meldrum shows just how ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS HE IS ABOUT THESE CREATURES!
    And he's supposed to be convincing his colleagues?
    BAD JOB MELDRUM!

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    1. I'll crush his head between my moobs for this affront

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    1. Travel ban on Muslims, remember?

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    2. "Hey Mazzin,Do I still get to babysit the neighbors kids"-Joe Fitsgerald

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  15. This proves Bigfoot is real! Not the same mask!

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  16. Look folks, this lends doubt to the Patterson Gimlin film as much as Meldrum is an idiot, come by my YouTube channel and see real evidence of Bigfoot, pictures of the monsters in their environment, real Bigfoot evidence

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  17. The Patterson-Gimlin film is very interesting and given that it was filmed in 1967 it looks rather real.

    But so far as evidence is concerned it isn't even necessary to evoke the PGF because there are so many reports that pre-date it. There are plenty of reports back into the 1800s of wildmen. Even if you dismiss the PGF and *all* other evidence collected subsequent to 1967 you still have a large body of reports that collectively point to something being out there.

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  18. This IS the mask that was used as the underlying face of Patty. The similarities are too striking for it only be a coincidence.

    Patty was a hoax. The nail is in the coffin.

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    1. the similarities are also striking between you and a sea slug but I wouldn't go so far as to call sea slugs a hoax
      Cheerio

      Joe

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    2. The similarities between you and your Queen are striking ^

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    3. got your knickers in a knot today ?

      Joe

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  19. The Patterson-Gimlin closeup face photo above does seem to have rather obvious large cutout areas for the eyes, so I would have to admit that it does look like a mask. However, until I see the mask I cannot say conclusively that it is fake, as I have not formally examined it.

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    1. D'you these little mind games you THINK you're playing by pretending to be me? Well just think... I'm sat here across the pond, knowing that you're sat there somewhere in the world, BOTH knowing that I'm in that little head of yours, 24/7.

      : )

      Loon.

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    2. Talking to yourself again? Mental case

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