Everyone is talking about the Discovery channel's documentary Russian Yeti - The Killer Lives. There's a lot of speculation going on, and with the information released in the documentary, people are starting to consider the Yeti as a real possibility. Following the premiere of the TV special tonight, we received the following letter.
"Tonight (Sunday, the 1st of June), I saw a History Channel programme on the 1959 Dyatlov Pass Incident. It was much more than I had expected, to say the least, with archived information examined from the Soviet "Snowman Commission" research patrol which encountered the corpses of the hikers some 10 days before they were rediscovered by the civilian search party. The hikers had the misfortune of being in the very same area as the officially-sponsored scientific expedition sent out to bring back a Yeti - alive, if at all possible. The creature(s) were sentient enough to recognise that the hikers were not armed and took advantage of this fact. The hikers apparently had found deer kills but mistakenly attributed them to indigenous Mansi peoples, so it is reasonable to believe that they had been observed by the "Menk(s)" since entering the area -- and it knew that they had no means of self-defence, unlike the researchers of the USSR Government-sponsored "Snowman Commission". From previous stories I had read, I thought that there had been some type of rocket test-related accident, but this television programme has definitely changed my mind, in addition to convincing me that the Yeti is much more than just some widespread myth or "collective memory" of various indigenous peoples.
From what was stated on the show, it sounded as though this area of the world would be the best possible place to send an official and well-funded expedition to finish the job and get one of these creatures. Of course, everybody in such an expedition should be armed with large-calibre automatic weapon. I know that there is some bad political blood brewing right now with the Crimea/Ukraine showdown, but Vlad Putin likes to portray himself as a outdoorsman and hunter. He may or may not believe in the Menk/Yeti, but I don't see any reason why he should object to an international research team making an all-out effort to get some incontrovertible evidence. As for me, I now have no doubt that such animals do exist, but if they are to be found in the near future, a largely-human-free area with high levels of reported activity (such as one near Dyatlov) would be the best place to start.
The Urals are remote and currency is hard to come by -- and will go quite a bit further than it would in many other parts of the world. If cooperation can be had from the local Mansi people (who have themselves reportedly been victimized by the creatures), their assistance and knowledge will be invaluable. The Soviet/Russian authorities did not always treat them with respect, so I am certain that they would be much more willing to work with friendly outsiders who are more accepting of their age-old traditions. By chance, do you know if Professor Meldrum or anybody else has ever considered organising a longer-term research project near Kholat Syakhl, where some tents, food items and camera traps could be set up with hunters in an armored hunting blind to lure the Menk into a situation from which it would be unlikely to escape. If an individual animal could successfully be captured or killed, then it would be imperative that the team bring the body out quickly (even if by helicopter), because there is the risk that other individuals could be observing and may well attempt to retrieve it and/or retaliate against the researchers.
Thank you very much,
Lindsey J."
Very interesting letter, and we appreciate you taking the time to send it "Lindsey J." We'll certainly be keeping our ears and eyes open, and perhaps Dr. Meldrum could try to organize something.
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ReplyDeleteIf anyone comes across a YouTube link for this, I would appreciate them letting me know.
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Deleteat 25:17 a reference is given to a piece of film, which happens to be from The Legend of Bigfoot aka(Ivan Marx).
Deletehttp://www.stevemandich.com/otherstuff/bigfootonfilm.htm
Scroll down slightly and compare the image, they are identical. BUSTED!!
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ReplyDeleteI thought the dead hikers were also irradiated and had strange anomalies evident in their internal organs?
ReplyDeleteJust a different story, not unlike this one, spread about this incident. Fact is no Yeti picture was there and there was no radiation. The injuries are often grossly exaggerated.
DeleteI'll bet you there was a buttload of empty vodka bottles though. It's amazing what kind of adventures a bunch of blackout drunks can have. Just go to You Tube and type in "Russians Drunk in Public". There's one of a lady tripping and staggering on a median of a roadway and by the time she gets her feet under her, she looks like she did 15 rounds with a Yeti.
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ReplyDeleteSo, let me get this straight. The Russian 'big foot' is aggressive and a killer, while the U.S. 'Big foot' is docile and non-aggressive? WTF!
Also I thought I heard about this incident on Ancient Aliens, and there version is the "Mountain of the Dead' is a U.F.O. base! It was the Aliens that killed the hikers! Which is it?
I say "It's ALL BS"!
There is in fact inumerable cases of alleged Sasquatch violence against 'civilized' man. Nearly every native tribe has canibalistic hairy giant tribes in their respected cultures.
DeleteI think you naively toss the Native American people, and Native Peoples worldwide into generic belief categories and underestimate the sheer number of individual tribes in favor of regionally selected names.
DeleteI'm not going to say you are wrong. Mainly because I don't feel like spending time to look any deeper into it and if I ask you for proof of "nearly every tribe" then I'll get some grumpy set up line or a quip about my b@lls.
I just wanted to keep the generalizing of so many unique and different peoples into a cheap plug for your bigfoot obsession to a minimum.
Peace.
Giants, Cannibals and Monsters by Kathy Strain.
DeleteAlso;
http://youtu.be/fmOmgWeogpU
... "What tribes was it that referred to Bigfoot/Sasquatch as cannibals? Kathy replies; "nearly all of them."
My phone's battery is dying but I want to state before it does that I don't think Sasquatch a monsters, I just think that like normal humans, they have cognitive thought processes and temprements.
Peace.
Later, I will find references for you for other countries that have tribal wildman legends.
DeleteNo offense but I'm not listening to a 3hr episode of C2C (especially without George Knapp) to hear something I don't really care about.
DeleteAnything but literary sources that can be referenced and I don't really care to read. I don't need any blogs and woo website articles, YouTube links to C2C, or any of that.
Oh... And Danny, please don't blame me for others leaving you comments regarding your mistakes around here.
DeletePlugs????? Remember where you are and what subject matter it is.
Well the anthropologist who put that book together on the tribes of North America, stated that in that video... You didn't have to watch the video, the proof was inthenlink if you denied it.
DeleteYou linked a 3hr audio file.
DeleteAnd I did nothing to warrant your snappy attitude.
DeleteYou tell him Daniel
DeleteNo, I tried referencing you a source to back up my statement, outside of the book. Also... If you look up top and read what Lindsey J wrote;
Delete"If cooperation can be had from the local Mansi people (who have themselves reportedly been victimized by the creatures), their assistance and knowledge will be invaluable."
You might want to let your cheer leader know of our last exchange. Flippancy warrants exactly what it gets.
Lastly... My intention of referencing Strain was in relation to the comment up top that suggested NA wildmen are largely docile.
DeleteYeah Daniel, You started with the snipiness there
DeleteYeah yeah yeah...you loser
DeleteJoe, talk all you want but you linked a 3hr audio file of C2C as conclusive evidence of your argument. You didn't provide me articles, you provided a cult AM radio program.
DeleteI don't need to 'look up top,' I know some people's believe in mythological beings, I just don't believe the claim "nearly every native tribe" has bigfoot legends. They also talk of ShapeShifters and all sorts of hoojeeboohjee but that doesn't make it real.
And Rum, if there is any curt ness on my part, it's the post stopping PJ from generalizing and painting all Native inhabitants with the same broad brush stroke. Excuse me for not giving into stereotypes and blank generalizations.
Let's get this straight. I made a statement regarding nearly every North American tribe having Sasquatch legends, not all indegenous peoples. I also provided you with an actual book, knew you wouldn't even read it, so provided you with a video where the same anthropologist nutshells the entire thing.
DeleteYou worry about stereotypes now? I thought you insulted all equally??
Daniel is a special child Joe just resist the urge. He is a troll.
DeleteJoe, wrong again.
DeleteTo quote, you said "Nearly every native tribe has canibalistic hairy giant tribes in their respected cultures."
You did not specify Native American, you claimed "native tribes" and "respected culture."
So before you continue with your clear lie, "I made a statement regarding nearly every North American tribe having Sasquatch legends, not all indegenous peoples," I'll save you some time.
Stop.
You provided a book by a bigfooter that I'm not going to buy, cool. You'd think you could find actual documents and local heritage on the infinite internet but you instead give a static image on a 3hr C2C audio file.
Yes, excuse me if I don't waste 3 hours not listening to your cult AM Radio program (especially without George Knapp) for something that should take no more than 20 minutes to do.
It seems the longer you are here, the more prone you are to lying and fabrication.
I think it's time to post another personal picture.
DeleteD Campbell.
Here we go around and around, doing the Daniel I call it!
DeleteHow many times have I made it utterly clear that I am referring to the native tribes of the US? Has it really got this desperate for you that you have to pick holes out of a comment?
What source of author that writes about this subject isn't a Bigdooter, Danny? I have you a radio documentary by the actual author/anthropologist, so you couldn't wiggle out of denying it... Yet you find an angle to wangle like a pro.
20mins? Pssssssst... The quotes in the opening 10. Easier to claim someone else is lying than grow a pair and look at it. But don't worry Danny, you have Disotell on speed dial, remember?
Here's an idea: modify the text of your copy paste catalogue to specify Native American tribe and culture and you won't get called on your gross negligence.
DeleteAs well, if you feel that your C2C episode constitutes proof, then that's all that's needed to determine you can't provide actual sources.
Even Kathy Strain needs to reference her sources in a literary fashion for all to dissect. Her simply saying it on a cult radio program doesn't verify squat without the proper citations.
That's the way she goes.
Of course I do, Joe, remember this is America: Land of the Free, where we can freely access information and criticize whomever we wish. I know voicing your opinion in England can get you locked up. What a poor situation.
Here's an idea: modify your agenda to deny every point put your way and come clean that I've been brutally clear from day one about every single North American tribe, it's something you cried about for months.
DeleteThe Coast to Coast AM source isn't proof... The book I sourced you by the said anthropologist is. The interview was an effort at bringing things down to a level in which you didn't have to work too hard for your troubles, remember you said this up top.
Again... Kathy Strain is an anthropologist, and wrote the book that is the primary source for me stating that up top.
Ummmmmmm... You have a pretty f*cked up unsertanding of the UK if you think it locks people away for expressing themselves. You on the other hand are rude, and have a hate campaign against me and a denial of facts towards this subject. Your desire to express things isn't the issue, it's your actions that have caused you your troubles, so don't try and get the moral highground on me bro, I don't forget what you've stooped to and remember you approached me on this thread, as with all the others, not the other way around.
If you meant Native American tribe then say Native American tribe. If you are clear with what you write down, there would be less confusion. You regularly use ambiguous phrasing, leaving openings. Say what you mean, mean what you say.
DeleteSince the book is your source of knowledge, would you please, oh so kindly, provide me with the bibliography at least?
What databases did she use? What tribes did she connect with?
Many vital questions still need answered.
There is a big difference between 'not working hard' and listening to a cult radio program for 3 hours.
The picture on the screen has Paulides and someone else I can't remember. You didn't even supply a time or time frame until 4 responses later.
And my comment about jail for expressing yourself is in reference to the two cases mentioned here, especially the second one: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/oct/08/april-jones-matthew-woods-jailed
DeleteI've repeatedly stated for months after the Hombolt skull study that the legend associated with that is exactly the same as nearly every native tribe legend in North America, it's been one of my main arguments to support a claim for biological evidence being hidden.
DeleteGot questions? Read the book. You can't do that, then an anthropologist to back up my claim is good enough. You want to argue the toss yet you're too lazy to watch a video for ten minutes, suddenly I have to provide you won't more sources?
You're a rhetorical mess Danny Boy.
Yes... The gentleman in the video is Harvey Pratt... The very best forensic artist in the country with a resume that includes work on some of the biggest cases, involving the most terrible serial killers in history.
Now... I'm bored, see ya around.
"Lancashire teenager sentenced to three months in prison after posting 'abhorrent' jokes about missing girl on Facebook."
DeleteGood enough for the p***k.
Joe, I don't follow every single thing you say, especially day to day. And neither do occasional people that may not comment but read your statement.
DeleteSince the book is the basis of your knowledge, what's wrong with providing some of the bibliography? Or at least a solid foundation she built upon?
Could it possibly be that you haven't actually read the book nor own it?
If you don't have the book, doesn't it seem a bit foolish to pass off like you have it and have read it? Are you really pushing the information of a book you haven't read?
Then again, didn't you do this with Paulides books a couple months ago? Why should I be surprised?
And that response is exactly what I expected, Joe. Just because you think the jokes he made were abhorrent doesn't mean you put him in jail for 3 months.
The other kid simply tweeted "LOL" when a football player collapsed on field.
Your country put them in jail. That's pathetic stuff right there, and that's why I made cracks about voicing your opinion in your country getting you locked up.
Look up 'Bill Buckner error' on YouTube. That guy received things you can't even imagine, from his own city, but nobody got jailed for making distasteful jokes.
Monitoring thought, speech, and expression with law is a crime against humanity. God Bless America.
What would be your reaction if someone asked you to reference a bibliography? That's right... Deflect Danny, it still doesn't take away from the fact that you got done again, just as the fellow with the Paulides book did. I'll be sure to ask you for your references next time you make a point, your response will be interesting.
DeleteYou set yourself up so badly sometimes.
Making jokes about a dead 3 year old gets what it gets. It has nothing to do with freedom of expression... You are a sick as the little p***k that thought he was clever till the old bill knocked his door.
http://www.censorshipinamerica.com/p/history-of-censorship-in-usa.html?m=1
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/02/27/special-report-surveillance-and-censorship-america/
God bless America.
Joe, I have no problem providing any part of a book that I own, especially if I am using it as a reference. If the book in question were political, historical, philosophical, on economic theory, or by Vonnegut or Orwell, I may be of assistance but sadly, my cryptozoology literary collection is lacking. Although, I may have one of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy books laying around if that helps.
DeleteIt doesn't matter how you feel about what someone said in expressing themselves, policing thought and speech is a crime against humanity.
Yes, our government spies on not only us but everyone worldwide. It doesn't toss 20 something's in jail for "LOL" tweets or jokes about dead babies. As a matter of fact, there are dedicated websites for dead baby jokes.
And btw, your censorship history link is 95% about Press, motion picture, wartime, and National Security. Most of that article is about pre-1930's America.
God Bless America indeed.
Me not providing you with a bibliography, doesn't mean the said source is debunk, you're focussing on me which is natural for someone who has a personal vendetta; puts the blinkers on though and makes you lose track of what's inportant. I've also very recently moved home and am not going through boxes to get you a bibliography that would take me an hour to type out for you to rhetorically wangle. We'll see how much of a problem you don't have next time I want a bibliography, you've set yourself up for a little fart in the face there old boy.
DeleteIt still doesn't support your argument and the fact that nearly every native tribe in the US has cannibalistic/hair giants in their legends and culture is what it is.
Danny... Do you want me to source you the gazillion other references to your country censoring, lying, withholding information, corruption, all the other sources there is on the Internet to make you look silly? Those links took me seconds and show that there is a deep rooted tradition of you being lied to... Compare that to the sick jokes about a dead three year old all you like; it's not ok and is not a comparison for any of your arguments. Three months as an example's ok in my books... He probably served something around six weeks.
One. The Government seizes and searches all internet and text communications which enter or leave the US
DeleteTwo. The Government created and maintains secret backdoor access into all databases in order to search for information on US citizens
Three. The Government operates a vast database which allows it to sift through millions of records on the internet to show nearly everything a person does
Four. The Government has a special court which meets in secret to authorize access for the FBI and other investigators to millions and millions of US phone, text, email and business records
Five. The Government keeps Top Secret nearly all the decisions of the FISA court
Six. The Government is fighting to keep Top Secret a key 2011 decision of the FISA court even after the court itself said it can be made public
Seven. The Government uses secret National Security Letters (NSL) issued by the FBI to seize tens of thousands of records
Eight. The National Security Head was caught not telling the truth to Congress about the surveillance of millions of US citizens
Nine. The Government falsely assured the US public in writing that privacy protections are significantly stronger than they actually are and Senators who knew better were not allowed to disclose the truth
Ten. The chief defender of spying in the House of Representatives, the Chair of the oversight intelligence subcommittee, did not tell the truth or maybe worse did not know the truth about surveillance
Eleven. The House intelligence oversight committee repeatedly refused to provide basic surveillance information to elected members of the House of Representatives, Republican and Democrat
Twelve. The paranoia about secrecy of surveillance is so bad in the House of Representatives that an elected member of Congress was threatened for passing around copies of the Snowden disclosures which had been already printed in newspapers worldwide
Thirteen. The Senate oversight committee refused to allow a dissenting Senator to publicly discuss his objections to surveillance
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/23/13-things-the-government-is-trying-to-keep-secret-from-you/
... In that link, you will notice examples to every point also, and you think your government is above covering up. Shall I go on and source you more examples of unhonest practice by your perfect example setting country?
And a pure fundamental difference between us, your pleasure of seeing young men locked up for a form of expression. You'd be a hit in the Renaissance period, Joe.
Delete"That's not art! Burn it!"
America isn't perfect, Joe, far from it but for every dirty deed stricken against us there are much dirtier deeds in the closet of England.
Besides, who brought up cover ups, corruption, withheld information, and Federal discretion? None of that is locking up a kid for tweeting "LOL" at an injury or making a dead baby joke on Facebook.
God Bless America indeed.
PS- with as much verbal diarrhea as you spew here daily, there is certainly NO WAY a simple bibliography type up would take an hour.
You obviously haven't an education then.
DeleteNever said England hadn't. You acted like jailing a yob for filth for a couple of weeks where he'll play Playstation all day has anything on the little stunts your country has pulled.
Comparing my universal disgust for publicly posted child death humour at the expense of families who've lost that poor person to the renaissance period says it all... Are you on a lot of coke or something Danny?
You sure to love accusing everyone else of something, Joe. I've seen you accuse almost everyone here in a hot mess, including Mike and Harry. Sure, Joe, if you want it that way then consider me to be on "a lot of coke."
DeleteI never inferred America wasn't guilty of certain things but jailing people over free speech issues is not one of them (at least in the past 100 years) especially jailing young men for social media posting.
Just the fact you are not bothered by the country you reside in being able to toss you in prison over a non-libel social media comment highlights our differences.
Then again, you weak pansies gave up your guns some time ago and our 2nd amendment rights protect our first amendment rights, as well as all others. They are not exclusive. It's the Bill of Rights for a reason. You gave up your guns and are slowly losing your free speech.
Thing is in America it's "I do not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it."
You disagree with that person and believe it's best for him to be locked up behind bars, on the taxpayer dime, because he was distasteful, disrespectful, or vulgar.
And here I thought you were supposed to be the open minded one. No wonder you hate me so much. You would honestly want me locked behind bars for the insults and jokes I've said to and about you.
God Bless America.
Oh dear... I don't hate you, I don't know you. Put the pipe down, you're embarrassing yourself. 3 year old dead disabled girl jokes warrant a yob being jailed for a couple of weeks... You silly man. You've read your own comments for too long I think.
DeleteI never said you should be locked up (what?) I have a sense of humour and in fact laugh at most you spew my way. I think you're in danger of taking yourself too seriously and promoting filth in some reverse moral narcissism.
I think you need a sleep.
The strange thing about Kathy Strain's book and about her, is that after interviewing a number of tribes in California, she made no mention in her book to Bigfoot being paranormal, even though all of the tribes are aware of that little tidbit. Except privately, whilst sitting around the campfire, her husband will state that they are paranormal and only then will Kathy admit that "they are supposed to be paranormal." So it would seem that Kathy left the single most important detail about the Bigfoot, OUT OF HER BOOK! She sterilized her book in order to not be lumped in with the persons who are on the receiving end of unending name calling by those who cannot psychologically deal with an 8 foot tall x 800 lb x invisible hairy biped, standing right next to you in the remote forest.
DeleteEvery enthusiast deals with the awkward aspect of the paranormal side of this subject. Kathy playing it safe is no suprise to me.
DeleteI don't see gigantic hairy humans that are invisible, primitive yet sophisticated, as awkward at all. Not at all.
Deletesta Menk ya
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ReplyDeleteI liked the interview with the Mansi. Did not realize the KGB had tortured these people in 59 to get them to confess, which they did not and were cleared. The Mansi thought it was the Menk which means hairy forest giant. ( Were have we heard this before ? ).
ReplyDeleteThe alledged yeti picture being put up on here for the last few days did not impress me, except for one thing. It did not look big, to straight up and down, however the torso looked bigger than human in comparison to the legs. On the TV this picture was much more impressive and clear and looked quite big compared to the background. The Patterson Sasquatch was also quite impressive on the TV and probably has more than a few viewers that do not know scratching their heads. Bringing on Dr. Jeff Meldrum was a good touch. His statement is he is completely confident that a Russian Yeti exist. He know longer hedges and has not for some time now. They brought up the note that someone in the group wrote, We now know the snowman exists. The tents the group used had horizontal little slits cut from the inside out clearly to view something in the tree line. The book with 5 thousand encounters in Russia contained three of being attacked.
The bad part is about 2/3 of the way through I felt like it was another Mermaid type production. I would like to see an interview with Mike Libecki and the lady to see if this was on the up and up before I draw any conclusions.
For now the only conclusion I can draw is these folks died a horrible death, we still do not know how, and if you are going out in the bush in Russia be it alone or larger group you best go armed. Good advise for NA also.
Chuck
It felt like it took that turn because it did, that is what is selling right now. Monster mocumentaries.
DeleteYou wrote a well thought out response, and I know you believe you saw what you claim to see, so I'm going to stay neutral on that...
I just want to say that just because Tahir said a Djinn possessed Abdus doesn't make it so. Maybe Tahir's village wasn't equipped to diagnose Schizophrenia.
Shawn. I will personally interview the female journalistic for your blog. I will need several nights In Moscow's finest hotel. I will pay for the caviar and champagne. I can assure you , I will get to the bottom of this mystery. M
DeleteQuick observation. The tiny slits cut into the tent seem to indicate the hikers cut holes in the tent to observe a perceived threat on the ground. To me, this eliminates UFO conspiracy as well as snow slide hypothesis. This looks more and more like these hikers perceived a danger on the ground from the woods and it eventually killed them.
DeleteMike. As soon as I saw the slits I told wife observation. Ufo would never do this kind of work, their agenda is a lot more advanced than outright brutality. They also said the picture of the alledged bigfoot was one of the last pics on the roll that was archieved which included the negative.
DeleteChuck
I'm not convinced that was a Yeti in the photo. That could just as easily be a picture of one of the hikers coming back from taking a dump.
DeleteThat chick had a big head. Yuck
DeleteCould an international team capture a yeti? Yes, if each one is a superhero. And if there really was a yeti.
ReplyDeleteJohnny Quest could have caught one, but his dad decided it was best to let it run free.
ReplyDeleteDr. Quest was a very astute man. Definitely was my favorite cartoon as a youth.
DeleteChuck
Hadji and Bandit got eaten in that episode....so Sad
DeleteSoviet apeman experiment gone wrong.
ReplyDeleteKGBs bigfoots abouts
DeleteIt's all BS people! Entertainment for the bored masses.
ReplyDeleteHenry May was here and entertained
DeleteSo was Simple Simon...but he didn`t get an pies did he.
DeleteMore fodder for the foolish lol!! Got yeti yet??
ReplyDeleteAnd no again.
ReplyDeleteWhat happend to my comment about a multi-million dollar, high voltage cage buried in thick concrete walled trap and containment vessel design? Didn't someone want that previously and successfully used design to become public knowledge? Oh dear!
ReplyDeleteit may not be clear what the photo is but its clear what it isnt as its not carrying anything-no skis,rucksack nor rifle ..what is out there not carrying items humans would need as essentials ?
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