Will It Take A Bigfoot Body To Convince Science They Actually Exist?


Editor’s Note: This is a guest post by Bigfoot Chicks, Melissa Adair. As researchers, the Bigfoot Chicks are committed to seeking the truth regarding the Bigfoot mystery. You can visit their blog at bigfootchicks.blogspot.com.

Will it take a body to convince scientists and the world of the existence of Bigfoot? This question has been asked from the beginning and is a source of heated debate within the Bigfoot community. In this article from 1977, famed anthropologist, Dr. Grover Krantz shares his opinions on the subject and discusses what he has learned from studying sighting reports and reveals the defining moment that made him a Bigfoot believer.

NEWS JOURNAL

North Central Ohio's Foremost Newspaper
Saturday, April 9, 1977

Proof Needed
Speaker Would Shoot 'Bigfoot'
By Melodie Ann Gross

"I think a Sasquatch has to be shot and killed to convince scienctists that they exist," Dr. Grover Krantz told an audience of about 400 at the Mansfield Campus last night.

Speaking on the topic of "Bigfoot" the associate professor of anthropology from Washington State University said a piece of the animal is the only thing which will finally be accepted by the scientific community.

Krantz hastened to add that he wants only one of the animals killed for study. Then he would like a law passed to protect them. He believes there may be as many as 200 of the creatures living in the Pacific Northwest.

The anthropologist brought with him a set of five plaster casts made from what he believes were Bigfoot's footprints. He sold the complete set to Mansfield OSU for $150, according to Dr. Richard Wink, M-OSU associate director.

The set of casts is one of three complete sets in existence, Krantz said. M-OSU is now the only university to have a complete set, Dr. Sherri Deaver told The News Journal. One set belongs to the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D. C., and Krantz owns the third set.

Dr. James B. Heck, M-OSU director, said the casts were paid for from anthropology department funds. Deaver said she will use the casts in teaching and hopes to have a permanent display of them in the campus library.

Krantz said he prefers the Indian name of Sasquatch for the Bigfoot creatures. In a presentation to Mansfield Campus students earlier in the afternoon, he said the name Bigfoot merely describes one part of the creature's anatomy. He said Big Elbow of Big Ear could be just as appropriate.

"Sasquatch is a legendary animal or thing that many people have described seeing and is almost universally denied by the scientific community," said Krantz.

"The animals are described by quite a number of observers...(with) very few deviations. Basically, a Sasquatch is an animal that stands on two legs with the body more or less vertically, two arms, shoulders with some breadth, the head sitting in the center of the shoulders, and this is pretty much a description of a human being," he said.

"The legs are roughly of human proportions. The arms are not used in locomotion: They just swing to the sides," He added.

"But the interesting part starts when you consider the size. The are usually described as being about eight feet tall, he said. Krantz estimated they weigh about 800 pounds and are "extremely heavyset."

While Krantz said he has made casts of the actual footprints on two occasions (one involving at least 1,000 tracks) he said he spends most of his time studying reports of Bigfoot sightings.

He has 800 reports and has interviewed about 24 persons who claim to have seen the creature. Krantz said he does not believe about half of those people he interviewed. He has viewed five films of the animal and believes only one of the films was real. In the case of the films he believes were faked, Krantz said he has a pretty good idea of "who was in the monkey suit".

But showing the plaster casts to the audience, Krantz explained it was one set in particular which made him a believer. The left footprint showed signs of a deformity: the creature was slightly crippled.

Detailing bone structure, the anthropologist said he felt it would take a real expert to fake a crippled foot.

Krantz, who has written numerous articles on the subject and who said he gets no support from his own university in his Sasquatch studies, admitted many footprints are pure hoaxes. But he said he knows two things to look for in footprints or casts which will tell him immediately whether or not they are fake.

Yet he has never written about those two telltale factors not has he told anyone else what they are.

But Krantz said footprints or photographs will always be considered fake. The only thing which will be accepted by scientists is a piece of bone or something from the animal.

Comments

  1. I like this quote by Krantz:

    "The skeptics are under no obligation to disprove all or, for that matter any of the evidence. The burden of proof rests with those who think that the animals are real. The skeptics are not obligated even to look at the evidence....Science requires solid evidence for the existence of a new species...A "type specimen" must be obtained, which is then described in a scientific journal and continues to be available for other experts to examine."
    Grover Krantz: "Bigfoot/Sasquatch evidence"(1992) p. 3 & 7

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    1. ^^^^GREAT points! Thats why people like Moneymaker and Smeja and Ketchum just keep dragging their bullshit stories on and on...."results/evidence will be release in full soon"....yet they never are and never do.

      Krantz was a true scientist who believed in Bigfoot and understood what it takes to get it in the books. Even Meldrum pales with his wishy-washy opinions and beliefs.....wanna convince someon? Dont sell books or tracks or videos drag the giant monkey into the room and call the press. dont get mad at us for not believing your bullshit, MAKE us believe!! the end.

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    2. If it was easy dipshit they would. Think super human stealth and perfect camoflauge with brilliant outdoor minds. can people catch marine snipers in the woods? NO! so why could anyone catch a Bigfoot idiot?

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    3. ^ Sorry, but the obstacles you list do not equate to proof.

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    4. LOL only a true beelever could come back with such an idiotic post. Obviously you didnt read the quote by a well respected, now deceased Professor who understood Bigfoot and gave his lofe work to prove it. Stay behind the computer, wait for Ketchum paper and buy Smejas book.

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    5. What I find absolutely hilarious is the majority of the comments on this blog are from non-believers.
      I mean, do any of you people REALLY think you can change a Bigfoot believers mind with your juvenile remarks? You must be CONSTANTLY refreshing your browsers, which smacks of not having any sort of life worth living.
      It really is comical! LOL
      Please keep it up, it makes my day reading your comments.

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    6. The true footers are out in the field where the trolls are on here 24/7 hitting the refresh button and replying to themselves. Ha ha. What a bunch of Morons.

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    7. Morons believe in things with no proof: Religeon, Bigfoot, Government Equality, and so on. Evidence to the contrary still the believers dream and line up for their abuse.

      Since Ketchum is basically a failure, Smeja and Curtino have produced NOTHiNG from shooting TWO bigfoot, the only idiots are the ones still talking like these things are real.

      You were wrong.

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    8. You question Curtino? That's fucking heresy.

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    9. True morons are the denying likes of anon 10:22 who for some idiotic reason gets off on annoying other people's opinions probably because he's got an empty life himself with nothing better to do, and so must spend his days trolling bigfoot sites pretending to be skeptical. Now that is the life of a real moron.

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    10. That's not skepticism. He's pretending to know something he don't.

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    11. I opened a jar of peanut butter once by myself.

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  2. Shawn,

    My name is Joe and I am once again writing to you in hopes to get the get the gay slurs removed from this blogs comment sections. My last post I made there were several users that made fun of both my boyfriend and I. Its a shame while reading the replies together my bo Stan simply let go of my hand and walked out of the room. I love my boyfriend so much why does it matter that were in a same gender relationship? Are you jealous that we have a better sex life than you all? I just do not get it, what is it? Do you not understand this causes us emotional harm? When we go in public places we get all over each other. Just the other night at applebees we were rubbing each others legs with our feet. No one in the restaurant came over to us and demanded we leave or called us names. As a matter of fact we enjoyed the restaurants fudge so much while ordering seconds the waitress even commented on our matching outfits and how cute we were together. That really made us feel good. Then hours later we come home and read this blog hoping to find proof of the existence of the big man but instead we find taterholes, fudge packers, butt bandits and unfortunately more waiting for us. In closing Shawn you run an excellent blog, my bo and I implore you to please clean up these comment sections. I love bigfoot as much as the next man but im not willing to sit around here much longer with the attitudes of some of these anonymous posters hating on myself and my baby.

    Thanks for your understanding with love,

    Joe & Stan

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    1. Stan's cheating on you Bro, sorry to drop a bomb like this. I caught him while you were out flirting and touching up his hot little bit of pie - called 'cream on me'

      Being concerned for your relationship, I decided to spy through your window later and watched as he fulfilled her every female desire.

      I'll be uploading it soon to porntube. Please don't cry, these things just happen. I'm sure you'll find another man hunk on this board who will be happy to pleasure you, in them thar woods!

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    2. People make derogatory heterosexual, racist, religious and feminist comments to. Being gay doesn't give you any special privileges and your not any more important than anybody else on this site.

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    3. @anon 3:45

      Absolutely agree with your statement.

      If your gay then you already have a thick skin, suggest you maintain it.
      Would you prefer to be addressed as Mr Faggot?

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    4. The key is to not mention your sex life on this site. Nobody wants to hear about it, no matter what kind it is. Keep comments to the subject of sasquatch/bigfoot.

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    5. FFS!! Stop getting so uptight you dipshits. It's only dry humor.

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    6. Nobody's putting a gun to anybody's head to make them go to this website.

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    7. I agree anon 5:28 nobody is forced into being here

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    8. Taterholers get mud helmet!

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    9. Bigfoot is gay thaz why their Homo erectus line is dying out.

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    10. ^ That's just Thing One and Thing Two, bored and boring this morning.

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    11. Shut up and go toss some salad! Ha-ha!

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    12. Shawn is trolling his own site again. Traffic must be down.

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    13. As content vanishes what do you expect? This blog is dieing.

      Harry, who's actually likeable! Obijamarooo, mad indian and Trolls are all that remain.

      Oh, and some mad Scottish bastard.

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    14. You guys don't believe in Bigfoot, but you believe some fake poster asking Shawn to stop gay comments? You idiots who responded to it are all a bunch of MORONS!!!!!!!!

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    15. I just loved fast forwarding the thread down from all this unread troll spam. LOL

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    16. Shawn is the biggest idiot of all, allowing his site's blog to degenerate into low grade insults central. What an absolute idiot.

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    17. It's a total disgrace, yes.

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  3. No. It would take bigfoot actually existing to convince science they exist

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    1. That's what your fat wife said about your Penis!

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    2. actually you got me on that one.

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  4. One can't be shot because they don't exist.

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    1. Many have been shot, and many bodies recovered over the years.

      The only problem is once their skin is penetrated they exude a chemical which slowly dissolves them.

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    2. never tell a woman she smells like tuna. trust me.

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    3. They also get mad when you say "I will give you $100 to have sex with me." Stuck up bitches...

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    4. People can't find a Bigfoot because they disguise themselves as cows. Just go into a feild try and tip a cow and a Bigfoot will jump out at you

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    5. Yiu're slipping dude, afterwards you say 'right that'll be $50 bitch'

      dat always gets 'em pissed.

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  5. That's a squatch mind-speak dome on his forehead. It also blows blue when a squatch is near.

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  6. I remember those days, when serious people discussed bigfoot seriously, even if they did have very shiny nipples on their foreheads.

    Thank you Melissa for hitting the reset button. Here we are thirty five years later and I haven't heard or seen one expert that has lent any more credibility to the existence of bigfoot than Dr. K did back in the day.


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    1. Why dont you go fuck yourself tatertot

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    2. You lickadee the dickadee?

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    3. Yes. There seems to have been some academic debate about this subject in the seventies. People considered what Krantz had to say and commented, even when his ideas were published in books instead of peer review journals.

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  7. How can anyone debate this question. The answer is yes.

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    1. The question is "Are believers totally gay and gullible for believing in a giant mythical apeman for which there is no proof?"

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    2. The real question is why some people deny this species' existence that they become trolls, obviously it scares them if the truth should come out to the general public that the apeman isn't so mythical after all but in fact real.

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  8. I know a good dermatologist he really should get that mole inbetween his eyes looked at

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    1. And as an aper he died following the wrong trail he's soon to be relegated to the shelves for failed history.

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  9. It's an old argument which came first Bigfoot or the idea of Bigfoot? We will never know anymore than we will ever know which came first the chicken or the egg

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    1. The answer is the egg. One of the last of the "not quite a chicken" critters drops an egg and within that egg is developing a creature that has the "last" needed mutation to become what we call a chicken.
      By evolutionary mechanics, the answer is :The egg.

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    2. But the real answer is: the chicken. Evolution is bullshit, and can not be proven because it doesn't exist. See? This is what the "skeptics" sound like to believers.

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    3. I was surprised to learn that in fact, it was the Chicken that came first. British scientists discovered that the egg can only form if certain proteins from the ovaries of a chicken are present. Answer: the egg is a product of the chicken.

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    4. I have a Ph. D. in Biology and have taught at three universities for over 25 years. After years of study, I finally had to come to the conclusion that evolution (as is frequenty taught)is BS. You can have a lot of variation within a kind, but for one type to change into another is total and unequivocal BS.

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    5. I drank the koolaid too but sorry There are established facts in evolution

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    6. There are established fables in evolution. Evolution is an ideology that makes the "facts" fit, whether they do or not.

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  10. Wait a minute that was written in 1977 and Dr Krantz is dead boy Shawn get some recent stuff!

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    1. 35 years and we're still waiting for more information. Krantz pretty much summarized in 1977 all of the discussion that is going on today.

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    2. True. Maybe the thing to do is avoid all this money-grubbing nonsense and check back in another 35 years.

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    3. It's not so odd there's no official discovery yet given that we're dealing with a hominin species - not the wild ape he thought.

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  11. Did Dr. Krantz ever examine the phenomena of Sasquatch mind-rape or their ability to transmit electro magnetic energy pulses from their minds to stun and disable prey? Mindspeak, anyone?

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  12. Humboldt County has bigfoot. But, you have to camp out for weeks durning berry picking season.

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  13. You won't find a bigfoot skeleton at the Smithsonian, only the skeleton of a bigfoot researcher:

    http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/aroundthemall/2009/02/grover-krantz-donated-his-body-to-science-on-one-condition/

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  14. Actually since Dr. Krantz death is has been found that science does Not need abody to verify a type specimen, which of BTW Dr. John Bingernail points out that in the further developement of DNA anyalisis such type specimen hominins have been verified such as Denisovan. This argument about needing a type specimen had seen it's days back then but is no longer valid and is a last ditch banner being waved by the Pro-Kill camp. Just not a valid point anymore and as a matter of fact you do not see any other scientists now adays adhearing to this stance, science has advanced past this with better technology and technics in todays world. ptangier

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    1. Exactly! Who needs actually "proof" anyway? The footers already *know* that bigfoot is real. Mainstream science is dominated by a dark cabal of conspirators, probably controlled by the illuminati, who seek to hold back the
      Advance of footery.

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    2. Who? More like what? Democracy that's what! People need to know what our goverment is up to. The military industrial complex doesn't want you to know. They want to keep there knowledge of infrasound and remote influence a secret. Knowledge they got from studying the Big-fella! They have shared this with the irs and telemarketers to control all aspects of our lives. Rick D. and Melba are true patriots. Not Matt M. He was bought off by the complex. Sad.

      I wish they would use this technology on the criminals though. That is something good Bigfoot can teach us!

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    3. But the Denisovan DNA came from a bone.... and we can tell much from a bone,yes? In terms of identifying cryptic DNA, in order for it to have any real value, we need to determine what the same came from. If there is nothing to compare it to, how can we say what it is?

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  15. Dr.K was all droopey in the head. We don't need a body of any bigfeets, if the exist then in time one will show itself to the public people and we will alm agree on the fact.

    In only a matter of time one of them will end up ruling the planet with the help of his ninja army of gang bangers and pedophiles. And i will LAUGH at the skeptics and hooligans. Hhahaa, HAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAA

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    1. We don't need a body! All the skeptics and trolls who have invaded this site over the past couple weeks are going to be SILENT when Dr. Ketchum's paper is published. After the existence of Sasquatch is proven, and Dr. Ketchum is able to document their behavior regarding the following:
      1. Horse mane braiding
      2. Stick structure building
      3. Diets of blueberry bagels
      4. Psychokinetic powers eg mindspeak, mind-rape, moving objects just by thinking about them
      5. Electro magnetic pulse bursts to disable prey
      6. Angel DNA and the Sasquatch connection to nephilim
      7. Infrasound
      I want all of you skeptic assholes to give the entire bigfoot community an apology . Dr. Ketchum will prove these and much more, and do so without a body or physical evidence of any kind. How? Her telepathic union with the 'foots has given her access to knowledge that any scientist would kill for. You doubters are going to rue the day you dismissed Dr. Ketchum when she is collecting her Nobel!
      -TMF

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    2. I agree but the final proof will be this and don't let this get out its why she is taking so long... She is pregnant and Bigfoot is the baby daddy. She will be on CNN with it after its born

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    3. Are the foots capable of reproducing via mindrape? Fascinating.

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    4. That you Snowy at it again, 9:03 ?

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    5. Haha yeah it's "snowy" you fucking bleever. Why don't you go eat a couple of blueberry bagels while you and friends try to mindrape each other in your tinfoil bars. God I love footers.

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    6. Who else would it be, freaky?

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  16. WTF is that thing growing on this guy's forehead?

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  17. I think a good, clear set of photos that blatantly show a LIVING creature (not a suit like the pgf or a todd standing hoax) would do it for me. No blurzfeetz.. Just good quality modern photos.

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    1. Common sense. Good photos or video from a credible source would be all over the news. People will know it exists, and scientists will go looking for a specimen so they can determine exactly what it is. There is a difference between naming an animal an proving it exists.....

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  18. If bigfoot had any of the below, then we as a species would have become extinct.

    ESP
    Telekinesis
    Electro magnetic pulse bursts to disable prey
    Infrasound

    Introduction of a stronger species to an ecosystem will result ALWAYS in the weaker species being exterminated.

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    1. Yeah this guy knows what he's talking about. Go back to watching the Kratt brothers and pretending to be a zoologist.

      Dr. Ketchum has real credentials and has interacted with the Sasquatches herself and has witnessed their psychokinetic powers firsthand.

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    2. You must be new here. Melba claims that she regularly interacts with a playful family of five bigfoots. Of course, when she makes these statements, she says she has no desire to provide proof of her claims.

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  19. Krantz has SPOKEN!! Eat shit bleevers! !!

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  20. @ 9:11:00 AM PST
    right on, ya gotta laugh

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  21. It will probably take more than one body. Esp if you want to compare the DNA samples to some actual bodies!

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  22. bigfoot chicks = attention whores! Melissa A needs to be at home taking care of her family.

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